Atheism

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"God" must be properly defined and falsifiable before they can even be any evidence. I don't think any theist has even got that far while talking to me.

If anyone notices a theist managing to do this during this thread (or in fact, ever) I'd be very interested to know. Please shoot me a PM! Of course, simply pointing to something we already know exists and saying "that is God" would technically count, but is entirely pointless/dishonest.

Almost all the time it isn't even attempted, which tells me a lot. Instead huge walls of text are produced telling me why such a simple task is unnecessary.

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PS: I remember one attempt, actually. I won't say who it was. But they claimed there is a falsifiable test:

If our universe exists then God exists; if it doesn't, then God doesn't.

This just tags "God" on as a meaningless extra quality to the universe existing, but it still seems unfalsifiable. It appears impossible that I could collect evidence which shows that the universe does not exist. At best I can try and convince myself that my experiences don't relate to anything real, and that somehow there isn't even anything real to experience, and that I myself am nothing. How exactly I could demonstrate that, even theoretically, I have no idea. It appears highly paradoxical.