RE: Atheism
July 4, 2018 at 1:36 am
(This post was last modified: July 4, 2018 at 1:37 am by robvalue.)
I try to never use "supernatural" in serious conversation, because I think it's so elastic as to be meaningless. There's no definition that is used consistently enough to have any utility. I find "beyond our current understanding" to be more than sufficient in most situations.
Of course, particular definitions could be given for any given dialogue. I have no problem with that, if they make sense.
I note the general circular and arbitrary nature (haha) of it all. Examples based on previous conversations:
"Supernatural means not natural, and natural means not supernatural."
"Natural means obeying the laws of nature." [Unless you're going to tell me what those laws are, this statement is a pointless tautology, since everything obeys the laws pertaining to itself. There's then usually equivocation between our current scientific models and actual physical laws.]
Of course, particular definitions could be given for any given dialogue. I have no problem with that, if they make sense.
I note the general circular and arbitrary nature (haha) of it all. Examples based on previous conversations:
"Supernatural means not natural, and natural means not supernatural."
"Natural means obeying the laws of nature." [Unless you're going to tell me what those laws are, this statement is a pointless tautology, since everything obeys the laws pertaining to itself. There's then usually equivocation between our current scientific models and actual physical laws.]
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