(July 7, 2018 at 7:52 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(July 7, 2018 at 4:38 pm)chimp3 Wrote: I have read the Koran twice. Translation by Abdullah Yusef Ali. That is why I left the Chisti Sufi order. The Koran is as violent as the Judeo-Christian Babble. If we want a peaceful world we need to leave this Bronze Aged bullshit behind and start asking what really will produce a peaceful world. The Abrahamic religions have overwhelmingly proved themselves incapable.
Looking at the world; violence is pretty much the answer preferred by humans to keep on the peace; don't forget that the current state of "relative peace" is very fragile, and only kept by the power of nuclear deterrence that followed WW2, it's more of a "time-out" between the rounds in a boxing match. And it's not religion that is going to burn the fuels of war again, but economy will.
Humans are obviously meant to fight and won't stop until earth is a piece of coal. I don't see Allah responsible for that, but I see secular order that only makes sense in a nationalist forest-like world as the cause; the main responsible cause.
A situation that everybody could've avoided if charity was given, mothers were respected, corruption was ended, killing was punished, stealing was punished, adultery was punished, wars were ended against the innocent.
The Quran is advocating peace in so many verses; I can quote them for you.
If humans are meant to fight then who meant that to be?
God thinks it's fun to confuse primates. Larsen's God!
