RE: Extremists: a question and a talk
July 7, 2018 at 9:58 pm
(This post was last modified: July 7, 2018 at 10:24 pm by Angrboda.)
(July 7, 2018 at 8:43 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:(July 7, 2018 at 7:49 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: I already did, but you just ignored it.
https://atheistforums.org/thread-55130-p...pid1784020
That is not evidence. That is a person playing the same broken record which was broken here over and over and over, cherry picking that I commented on and replied to over and over and over; but here's my reply again:
1-All the verses that speak about "fighting", speak about "fighting" in the context of war. There was a war against Mohammed -peace be upon him-, and his followers were tortured and killed, so he fought back, with these verses being the command for him to fight back.
Wrong.
(July 7, 2018 at 8:43 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote: 2-Fighting in Islam is prohibited unless to deter aggression; ironically the youtuber you quoted ignored the verses coming down below:
Wrong again.
(July 7, 2018 at 8:43 pm)AtlasS33 Wrote:Quote:Sura 60, The Quran:
( 8 ) Allah does not forbid you from those who do not fight you because of religion and do not expel you from your homes - from being righteous toward them and acting justly toward them. Indeed, Allah loves those who act justly.
( 9 ) Allah only forbids you from those who fight you because of religion and expel you from your homes and aid in your expulsion - [forbids] that you make allies of them. And whoever makes allies of them, then it is those who are the wrongdoers.
and
Quote:Sura 7, The Quran:
( 55 ) Call upon your Lord in humility and privately; indeed, He does not like transgressors.
( 56 ) And cause not corruption upon the earth after its reformation. And invoke Him in fear and aspiration. Indeed, the mercy of Allah is near to the doers of good.
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Sura 7, The Quran:
Sahih International
(56) And cause not corruption upon the earth after its reformation. And invoke Him in fear and aspiration. Indeed, the mercy of Allah is near to the doers of good.
and:
Quote: Wrote:https://quran.com/5/32?translations=86,29
Surah 5, the Quran:
Sahih International
(32) Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.
What you brought is not an evidence. What you brought is a storm inside a cup. زوبعة في فنجان
Shame that he criticizes Islam, and forget about the terrible nightmare non-Muslims caused by creating atomic bombs and modern war machines. Big shame.
Yeah, like I said, you're full of shit. You cherry pick the verses which favor peace, but the Quran can be read in other ways that are just as legitimate as yours. The only reason you think your ways are the right ones is because you're too blind to see.
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