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Extremists: a question and a talk
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RE: Extremists: a question and a talk
(July 7, 2018 at 11:44 am)AtlasS33 Wrote: If you ever took a close look to the Muslim society, Muslims are categorized into three factions:

1-Self haters
2-Extremists
3-True believers

It is not strange for one category to carry small bits of the other categories; either. So you can see a true believer who carries some self hate or some extremism, and vice versa for every category.

In this topic I want to discuss the "extremists" in specific.

Mostly, this category feels alienated and out of society, its members also feel that everybody in the world is fighting them, anger can be seen shining from their propaganda, and vengeance is one of the main goals of their struggle. Desperation also serves their struggle and is the engine behind their signature act: suicide bombing.

The problem with this category of Muslims is the direct ignoring they do in front of direct verses from the Quran they believe in:

Quote:https://quran.com/7/56?translations=
Sura 7, The Quran:

Sahih International

(56) And cause not corruption upon the earth after its reformation. And invoke Him in fear and aspiration. Indeed, the mercy of Allah is near to the doers of good.

and:


Quote:https://quran.com/5/32?translations=86,29
Surah 5, the Quran:

Sahih International

(32) Because of that, We decreed upon the Children of Israel that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption [done] in the land - it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one - it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, [even] after that, throughout the land, were transgressors.

But these verses are totally ignored by the extremist mind. Souls are being killed without a soul -the children dying in suicide bombings and the civilians-, corruption takes place with the rash acts of extremists.

But all of that opposing opinion from the same religion extremists say they believe in, does not hold any of them from pressing the trigger, bombing hundreds to oblivion.

Terrorism of extremist Muslim militias, is not at all different in evil than the tactical bombing and savage nuclear threat of non-Muslim superpowers. Actually; it's a very sad thing that a Muslim justifies the crimes they make by the evil done by other regimes and systems, it only differs in scale.

But the question asked for the supporters of Jihadi movements: don't you feel shame of going against obvious, clear verses from your own religion, like the ones above?

Do children and suicide bombing casualties know in what they were killed or because of what?

Basing your morality on the writings of antiquity  makes no sense to me. And the part religious people miss, not just Islam, but all religions worldwide, is that just because you interpret a writing one way, does not prevent someone else to read that same book to come to a completely different conclusion.

You are still pulling the "True Scotsman" fallacy, just like any other religion.

Our species ability to be cruel or compassionate isn't handed down to us from above, our behaviors both good and bad are in us. It is up to humans to choose which.
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Extremists: a question and a talk - by WinterHold - July 7, 2018 at 11:44 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by chimp3 - July 7, 2018 at 11:48 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Minimalist - July 7, 2018 at 11:53 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by WinterHold - July 7, 2018 at 3:40 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Angrboda - July 7, 2018 at 7:49 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by WinterHold - July 7, 2018 at 8:43 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Angrboda - July 7, 2018 at 9:58 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by WinterHold - July 8, 2018 at 5:30 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Angrboda - July 9, 2018 at 11:45 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by robvalue - July 7, 2018 at 12:47 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Angrboda - July 7, 2018 at 2:20 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by chimp3 - July 7, 2018 at 4:38 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by WinterHold - July 7, 2018 at 7:52 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by chimp3 - July 7, 2018 at 7:59 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Foxaèr - July 7, 2018 at 8:31 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by chimp3 - July 7, 2018 at 8:59 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Joods - July 7, 2018 at 8:26 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by WinterHold - July 8, 2018 at 9:54 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by brewer - July 7, 2018 at 10:32 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by robvalue - July 8, 2018 at 4:50 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by SaStrike - July 8, 2018 at 7:04 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Brian37 - July 8, 2018 at 10:01 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by robvalue - July 8, 2018 at 12:18 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by WinterHold - July 8, 2018 at 6:26 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by chimp3 - July 8, 2018 at 7:55 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by robvalue - July 9, 2018 at 1:29 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by WinterHold - July 15, 2018 at 10:56 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Angrboda - July 16, 2018 at 2:28 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by WinterHold - July 16, 2018 at 5:29 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Angrboda - July 16, 2018 at 10:25 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by WinterHold - July 17, 2018 at 11:03 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Angrboda - July 10, 2018 at 9:09 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Angrboda - July 10, 2018 at 11:16 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by robvalue - July 17, 2018 at 11:57 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by WinterHold - July 17, 2018 at 5:48 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Angrboda - July 17, 2018 at 12:56 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Angrboda - July 17, 2018 at 2:13 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Fake Messiah - July 17, 2018 at 3:47 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Angrboda - July 17, 2018 at 4:12 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by yragnitup - July 17, 2018 at 11:22 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by yragnitup - July 18, 2018 at 3:22 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Angrboda - July 17, 2018 at 8:37 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by WinterHold - July 17, 2018 at 9:44 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by robvalue - July 18, 2018 at 6:50 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by WinterHold - July 18, 2018 at 8:40 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Fake Messiah - July 18, 2018 at 7:11 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by WinterHold - July 20, 2018 at 12:37 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by robvalue - July 18, 2018 at 7:33 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by robvalue - July 18, 2018 at 9:55 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by robvalue - July 19, 2018 at 1:59 pm
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Angrboda - July 20, 2018 at 5:07 am
RE: Extremists: a question and a talk - by Fake Messiah - July 28, 2018 at 9:25 am

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