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Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
(September 13, 2011 at 7:18 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Yeah because modern science and democracy are terrible things aren’t they? Lay off the Kool Aid for once.

Christianity didn't create science and democracy. These things came to be in spite of Christianity. Nearly every bit of scientific and sociological progress could be made only by dragging Christianity kicking and screaming the whole way. After all the kicking and screaming is done, Christianity brushes itself off and says, "This is what I said/wanted all along."

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Can you prove that the disciples and apostles were persecuted?
It is a historically accepted fact that they were.

Really? Do tell then. What evidence has convinced the academic community that they (1) existed (2) were persecuted for their beliefs and (3) went to their deaths refusing to recant.

Quote:No, they knew it was true because they witnessed Christ’s miracles and Him walking the earth after His death, burial, and resurrection.
Prove it.

Quote:Yes it does.
No, it doesn't.

I haven't played this game since I was a kid. We'll just keep playing until you cough up something more substantial on how GodWillsIt tells us anything.

As for the rest, I think we've done enough on Genesis. How about Jesus? Was the stone of his empty tomb rolled away when Mary arrived with her spices?
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...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 10, 2011 at 7:47 pm
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by DeistPaladin - September 13, 2011 at 9:11 pm
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 16, 2011 at 12:42 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 18, 2011 at 12:19 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 27, 2011 at 9:57 am

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