(September 13, 2011 at 9:11 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: Christianity didn't create science and democracy. These things came to be in spite of Christianity. Nearly every bit of scientific and sociological progress could be made only by dragging Christianity kicking and screaming the whole way. After all the kicking and screaming is done, Christianity brushes itself off and says, "This is what I said/wanted all along."
Utter garbage, it’s called Whitehead’s hypothesis, there is a historical consensus that the Christian Reformation directly lead to modern science. The form of Democratic Republic we are so familiar with today was created by John Calvin for church governments in the 16th century. You can believe your own deluded version of history if you’d like, but historians disagree with you.
Quote:Really? Do tell then. What evidence has convinced the academic community that they (1) existed (2) were persecuted for their beliefs and (3) went to their deaths refusing to recant.
The same evidence that has convinced the academic community that philosophers such as Aristotle and Socrates ever existed, we have their writings. The only problem for you is that the New Testament is far better preserved and we have far more manuscripts of it than anything we have written by Aristotle and Socrates. The Book of Acts written by Luke details many of the disciples’ persecution after Jesus’ ascension. Do you also deny that Aristotle and Socrates ever existed or do you only apply your skepticism to concepts you don’t like?
Quote:Prove it.
The books of Acts and Luke demonstrate this.
Quote: GodWillsIt tells us anything.
It tells us everything. The artist’s words about his creation are infinitely more insightful and instructive than anything the creation itself can tell us. What God reveals to us about His creation is no different.
Quote: How about Jesus? Was the stone of his empty tomb rolled away when Mary arrived with her spices?
The women went to see the tomb, but an angel had rolled the stone away from the tomb sometime prior to the women’s arrival at the tomb. The angel was sitting on the stone when the women arrived.