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Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
(September 14, 2011 at 7:29 pm)DeistPaladin Wrote: The Bible makes it clear that peasants should obey their king (Romans 13:1-2) and slaves should obey their masters (numerous passages). No idea who these "historians" are but something tells me they're Christian apologists.

Not sure what peasants, slaves, and kings have to do with science but I assure you that Whitehead was not a Christian Apologist and neither is Richard Dawkins for that matter but they do know a thing or two about the history of science and both agree that the Christian Reformation was responsible for the birth of modern science.

Quote:Plato and Socrates never performed miracles. I hold the disciples and apostles to a higher standard. ECREE.

Special pleading. Go ahead and hold them to a different standard though, their writings are far better preserved than any other so they already pass that higher standard.

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It's not a matter of liking. Mythology is mythology and history is history. To use the Bible as a "historical document" but the Iliad is just a story is special pleading.

Begging the question, you have defined scripture as mythology to try and prove that scripture is mythology. Luke is a historian of high regard.

Quote: I hope one day humans live in a truly rational society

Considering you hold to beliefs that violate the principle of sufficient reason you would not make the cut in any such society there my irrational friend.

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ROFLOL

So much for rational integrity, I am glad I didn’t get my hopes for a rational response.

Quote:Matthew 28:1-5 In the end of the sabbath, as it began to dawn toward the first day of the week, came Mary Magdalene and the other Mary to see the sepulchre.
And, behold, there was a great earthquake: for the angel of the Lord descended from heaven, and came and rolled back the stone from the door, and sat upon it.
His countenance was like lightning, and his raiment white as snow:
And for fear of him the keepers did shake, and became as dead men.
And the angel answered and said unto the women, Fear not ye: for I know that ye seek Jesus, which was crucified.

Yup.
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 10, 2011 at 7:47 pm
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Statler Waldorf - September 14, 2011 at 7:58 pm
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 16, 2011 at 12:42 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 18, 2011 at 12:19 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 27, 2011 at 9:57 am

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