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Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
(September 14, 2011 at 8:49 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Sure, but that would only be true if a claim to miracles was an extraordinary claim, being that the majority of people on earth believe miracles do or have happened it is actually be definition the ordinary claim and the position that they cannot happen is the extraordinary claim. So where is your extraordinary evidence that miracles do not happen?

Appeal to Popularity and Shifting the Burden of Proof.

As an aside, do you know what they call supernatural occurrences that are proven to be real?

Natural occurrences.

Quote:Not really, you seem like the kind of guy who’d make a claim like that.
And if I did, you'd be skeptical, right? You play by the same rules in all other areas of life. You just hold Christian claims to a different standard.

Quote:66 books.
No non-Christian books though, right? The Muslim Haddiths and the Iliad are not among them, right?

Quote:
Quote: Luke is held in high regard as a historian by whom?

"Luke is a historian of the first rank; not merely are his statements of fact trustworthy, but he should be placed along with the very greatest of historians." - Archaeologist Sir William Ramsay

"For accuracy of detail, and for evocation of atmosphere, Luke stands, in fact, with Thucydides. The Acts of the Apostles is not shoddy product of pious imagining, but a trustworthy record, it was the spadework of archaeology which first revealed the truth.” - Professor of classics at Auckland University, E.M. Blaiklock

If these quotes are representative of scholarly consensus, it's a sad reflection of our society and an indication we're far from being that rational society.

Quote:Yes I read it, and no it didn’t say anything that was not included in my answer.

The stone was rolled away after they arrived.
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"The trinity can be equated to having your cake and eating it too."
...      -Lucent, trying to defend the Trinity concept
"(Yahweh's) actions are good because (Yahweh) is the ultimate standard of goodness. That’s not begging the question"
...       -Statler Waldorf, Christian apologist
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 10, 2011 at 7:47 pm
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by DeistPaladin - September 14, 2011 at 9:08 pm
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 16, 2011 at 12:42 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 18, 2011 at 12:19 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 27, 2011 at 9:57 am

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