Extremists: a question and a talk

[WinterHold]

Then again what exactly constitutes "corruption" or "waging war against Allah and His Messenger"?

corruption
kəˈrʌpʃ(ə)n/
noun
noun: corruption; plural noun: corruptions

1. 1.
   dishonest or fraudulent conduct by those in power, typically involving bribery.
   "the journalist who wants to expose corruption in high places"
   synonyms:
   dishonesty, dishonest dealings, unscrupulousness, deceit, deception, duplicity, double-dealing, fraud, fraudulence, misconduct, lawbreaking, crime, criminality, delinquency, wrongdoing, villainy; More
   bribery, bribing, subornation, venality, graft, extortion, jobbery, profiteering;
   payola;
   informalcrookedness, shadiness, sleaze, palm-greasing;
   malfeasance, misfeasance;
   archaicknavery;
   raremalversation
   "senior officials have been implicated in corruption"
   
   
   antonyms:
   honesty
   • the action or effect of making someone or something morally depraved.
     "the corruption of youth was a powerful motif"
     synonyms:
     sin, sinfulness, ungodliness, unrighteousness, profanity, impiety, impurity; More
     immorality, depravity, vice, iniquity, turpitude, degeneracy, perversion, pervertedness, debauchery, dissolution, dissoluteness, decadence, profligacy, wantonness, indecency, lasciviousness, lewdness, lechery;
     wickedness, evil, baseness, vileness
     "he is aware of his fall into corruption"
     
     
     antonyms:
     morality, purity
     
2. 2.
   the process by which a word or expression is changed from its original state to one regarded as erroneous or debased.
   "a record of a word's corruption"
   synonyms:
   alteration, falsification, doctoring, manipulation, manipulating, fudging, adulteration, debasement, degradation, abuse, subversion, misrepresentation, misapplication;
   rarevitiation
   "these figures have been subject to corruption"
   
   

So your argument against what I said, is to question what the word "corruption" means?

I think the word is very understandable. And linguistic experts from every language in the world know exactly what this word means, so we know exactly who is causing "corruption" and who isn't. Let's take banks and their hellish lending policies as a basic example for corruption in earth.

If you want to wage war against Allah; attack the fundamental laws this religion came to spread -prohibition of killing,murder,robbing,rape...and with fighting that you are fighting what Allah prohibited; with that you are fighting Allah-.

Seeing that U.S. bombs have fallen in seven Muslim-majority countries in just a decade leads Atlass (AKA moderate Muslim) in these countries to believe the United States is "waging war" in their lands and therefore hold its government and the population that elected it into office responsible.

False accusation thrown by a bankrupted intellect.

First  of all, the U.S people are something, and their government is something else. The U.S government; on the other hand, have been practicing terrorism since WW2, and is involved explicitly in cases of mass murder, and currently threatens the whole world through the electing of an idiot as a president.

The U.S doesn't need Islam to be condemned; any sane person would condemn it without even thinking. It lost its soul since the attacks on Japan in WW2, it's a godless regime that stops at nothing to achieve its political goals. Believe me even communist atheists from South America, Soviet Russians, Communist Chinese, all have agreed on the same and saw the same from this country.

Second; I say "the American regime". How dare you say that I generalize on the American people?

Also vocally apostasizing and writing articles, books, or even Facebook posts criticizing Islamic doctrine and promoting atheism are widely seen as "spreading corruption."

The Muslims who do this are ignoring the Quran, the whole Quran doesn't contain a single verse that orders Muslims to shut people who talk about their religion or God up, instead it orders them to forgive or repay the treatment -eye for an eye-, preferring forgiveness:

Sura 6, The Quran:
http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#a...rans=en_sh

( 108 )   And do not insult those they invoke other than Allah, lest they insult Allah in enmity without knowledge. Thus We have made pleasing to every community their deeds. Then to their Lord is their return, and He will inform them about what they used to do.

and

Sura 16, The Quran:
http://quran.ksu.edu.sa/index.php?l=en#a...rans=en_sh

( 125 )   Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided.

( 126 )   And if you punish [an enemy, O believers], punish with an equivalent of that with which you were harmed. But if you are patient - it is better for those who are patient.

( 127 )   And be patient, [O Muhammad], and your patience is not but through Allah. And do not grieve over them and do not be in distress over what they conspire.

So please; show these verses to the Muslims you talk about because they IDK frankly what religion do they follow.

And the Islamic State, which strictly follows ahadith that prescribe brutal punishments for blasphemers and homosexuals, clearly sees blasphemy and homosexuality as corrupt and sinful.
If "spreading corruption" is punishable by execution and/or crucifixion, imagine the number of "crimes" that might fall into this broad category.

Just as Atlass uses verse 5:32 to legitimately support his argument that Allah frowns on killing people, ISIS uses the very next verse, 5:33, to legitimately support murdering thousands.

I said so many times that the Hadiths are not to be trusted and that the Sunni/Shiite religions are following the wrong path for years, but yet you hold me responsible for the crimes of people I do not know.
If you want to bash ISIS, don't bash me. Bash ISIS warriors, you can find them in many places and I leave the search to you.