RE: Should Hilary Run In The Next Election (The Unbiased Version)
July 23, 2018 at 1:10 pm
(This post was last modified: July 23, 2018 at 1:15 pm by Amarok.)
(July 23, 2018 at 12:25 pm)Shell B Wrote: 1. Well, speaking as one, most of us who didn't vote Hillary voted third-party to avoid voting for either shill. You can doubt it, but you, like me, are using conjecture. The difference is, I'm not blaming anyone based on conjecture.1. Yup it's conjecture and again i'm not blaming you or third party voters .I'm simply skeptical if they would have stuck with Bernie .
2. Yes. I don't think it's silly to vote for a different party if its base continues to alienate me and treat me like I handed Trump an election. What's silly about that? You don't like Republicans, so you wouldn't vote Republican. I generally like Democrats, but am definitely sliding away from being a fan. Do the math.
3. Firstly, I gave you a good link. A good source. Secondly, if you don't know why HuffPost is a bad source without me telling you, maybe you shouldn't get involved in these debates.
4. You don't have to think someone was being immoral to blame them. Democrats are blaming anyone but themselves for the loss of this election, and it doesn't look good on them.
Let's reiterate this conversation. This conversation didn't go, "Well, some people didn't vote for Hillary, so that's a contributing factor in why she wasn't elected." It went something along the lines of, "Bernie Bros are assholes who lost the election for Hillary." You didn't come into some innocuous intellectual conversation, so don't be surprised when I'm not all, "Yo, you're right. Thanks for pointing out the seriously obvious fucking fact that people not voting for someone means they got less votes. That's clearly what they meant when they were blaming people like me." If you're not blaming people for not voting for Hillary, you're simply saying that people not voting for her is why she lost the election, which doesn't need saying at all.
2.Not the Democrats this forum conversation as i have already said
3. You didn't give a good reason why the link was bad you essentially performed a genetic fallacy
4.I didn't say democrats i was referring to me .And i'm not a democrat .And i'm not blaming you .
Indeed let's reiterate this conversation .Nope at no point did i call Bernie supporters assholes nor did i blame them for losing the election for Hilary. All i said was not voting (which is fine ) indirectly contributed to Trumps victory. I don't care what anyone else meant it's what i meant . As for needing to be said just because does not need to be said does not make it less true .
(July 23, 2018 at 1:00 pm)Shell B Wrote: They're a very biased news source, so much that, while they are 'factual' in their reporting, they use language and cherry-picking to skew news. Don't get me wrong, I'm more liberal than not, but I prefer unbiased reporting, especially when we're talking about Democrats passing the buck to Bernie supporters being discussed by a heavily-liberal, cherry-picking news site.Which still does not demonstrate the particular article is wrong .And i got nothing in the article about blaming Bernie.
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