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Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
(September 15, 2011 at 4:30 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: According to you the burden of proof is actually on you that they cannot happen since “extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.”
No, the burden isn't on me. The burden is on the one who would suggest that miracles can or do happen. Just because you call a lack of belief in miracles an extraordinary claim doesn't mean that it is.

Quote:You do realize that naturalism is a self refuting worldview though don’t you?
You just go on believing that.

Quote:No special pleading, I assure you. The reason for my rejection of those other books is because they are in direct contradiction to God’s revealed truth, not because of any perceived “lack of evidence”.
Ah, their holy books contradict your holy book so it must not be true. Special pleading? You're soaking in it.

Quote:Saying you don’t accept Luke as historical because scholars do not
Did I? I don't remember this. I remember saying "who says Luke is a historian?" but that was more an exclamation along the lines of "who the hell believes this crap?"

Quote:I am starting to think you’d be the one “laughed out of” any room full of rational people.
If rational thinking prevails, no.
If religious thinking prevails, they won't be laughing but screaming for me to be imprisoned, tortured and executed.

Quote:P.S. Jonathan Wells is a Biologist and he does not accept Darwinian Evolution, so that was easy enough to refute. Actually the fish biologist I work with at the USDA does not accept Darwinian Evolution either, so that was easy enough to refute a second time.

Any biologist who rejects evolution isn't a biologist any more than a doctor who accepts "healing crystals" is really a doctor. If you extend the definition of a profession to include quackery, it's an insult to the profession.

And no, this isn't "no true scotsman" as evolution is so intertwined in the study of biology that the field would make no sense except in light of evolution.

Quote:Since the angel spoke to the women, it appears he was still sitting on the stone when the women arrived.
It doesn't say that. In fact the order of events implies otherwise. They came. Stone rolled. Angel talked.
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 10, 2011 at 7:47 pm
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by DeistPaladin - September 15, 2011 at 5:13 pm
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 16, 2011 at 12:42 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 18, 2011 at 12:19 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 27, 2011 at 9:57 am

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