RE: So finally tried making a classical piano song. . .
July 29, 2018 at 9:31 am
(This post was last modified: July 29, 2018 at 10:29 am by emjay.)
(July 29, 2018 at 1:39 am)bennyboy Wrote:(July 27, 2018 at 6:51 pm)emjay Wrote: I'm no expert on classical music... my musical tastes are pretty much pick 'n' mix but I do like some of it, and where piano music is concerned I like Richard Clayderman and Rachmaninov... but that's about all I know. I thought your piece was pretty cool and reminds me much more of Rachmaninov than Clayderman... not just cos it's fast but also had a Rach feel about it at points. That's about all a philistine like me can say really ... well done for doing it anyway
To me, the Rach 2 and Rach 3 concertos are the pinnacle of piano writing. You might get different, but I can't conceive of anything being better!
I'm glad you feel that way cos it's the Rach 3 that I had in mind for my comparison, since it's the only one I know from Rachmaninov IOW what I was saying was that some of your twiddly bits lol, as well as the general speed of it, reminded me of the Rach 3 That film I mentioned as having got me interested in it, was basically all about the Rach 3... and portrayed it in the same light as you did... as the pinnacle of piano writing; that not every piano player could even play it... given how fast and complicated it was, let alone compose it... so the film was about a piano genius pressured by his father to do well in a competition playing that piece, and then his subsequent adult life in the aftermath of that. It was a very good film, and made me want to hear the whole Rach 3 as I'd never heard that sort of piano playing before. Richard Clayderman is something I grew up with, so is very nostaligic to me but tbh I don't even know if he does actually compose anything, cos he just plays piano versions of popular songs as far as I know, like Andrew Lloyd Webber or whatever... I like it, but nothing he's done as far as I've heard has even approached the speed and intricacy of the Rach 3. And someone remarked that to me before... that they didn't like Clayderman specifically because his piano playing didn't use so many notes... saying basically that it lacked spirit on account of that... I don't necessarily agree on the spirit part... but anyway, between the two I've got both angles covered... frantic and less so
(July 29, 2018 at 1:22 am)Minimalist Wrote:(July 27, 2018 at 10:43 pm)emjay Wrote: Right, well I get what you're saying and I'm sorry it is ruined for you. But just saying that sometimes a more modern style acts as a gateway into classical music for anyone approaching from that modern direction. For instance, back in the day Robert Miles was very popular with young people... me included... a mixture of dance music and piano that has gone on to become standard 'lift music' fare in shopping centres ever since But from the perspective of a classical music only fan, like you, I doubt that would be appealing from what you've said... it certainly was repetitive... as dance music tends to be... so not a patch 'real' compositions... but still nonetheless a gateway into piano music. But at the end of the day, I don't know what else I can say other than you can't please everyone at the same time... but I get that if you've paid to see a show, and have certain expectations about it, then it makes sense that you should have 'right of way' as it were, and get what you've paid for... leaving anything experimental to perhaps free radio stations or whatever... so still a means to hook new listeners but not at the cost of whatever you pay to see a show.
Well, anyway.... what you wrote was far superior to Finding Rothko. And to think it was your first try!
I could be wrong but it sounds as if the Kansas City Symphony is 3 morons with kazoos farting through them!
I have to say, that does sound pretty crap... very random... not like benny's piece at all, which was structured and had melodies.