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Poll: What is your pro-life position?
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Abortion is immoral but not a matter for the legal system
28.57%
2 28.57%
Doctors and/or mothers should be prosecuted for aborting
0%
0 0%
Mothers should also be physically forced to come to term in some circumstances
0%
0 0%
Other
71.43%
5 71.43%
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If you're pro-life, how far do you take that?
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RE: If you're pro-life, how far do you take that?
(August 7, 2018 at 11:43 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(August 7, 2018 at 11:20 am)Catholic_Lady Wrote: I understand that unfortunately many people will keep sleeping around despite having aids, or knowing that aids is widespread in their area. But that doesn't change the fact that abstinence in these circumstances would still give the best outcomes and is also the more moral thing to do. The Church has a duty to advocate morality, and it just wouldn't be within the realm of our understanding of morality to tell these people to "keep having sex, just wear a condom!", when we know it doesn't 100% protect against aids and other things.
Of course, people have the a right to their own free will and will either follow the advice or not.

Yes, abstinence would indeed lead to the best outcome.
But here is where they fail to account for human nature.
How much worse would it be for the church to stick to their morality, while acknowledging that, under different circumstances, it would be best for people to use protection both against diseases and unwanted pregnancies?
One can always tell the people "Look, guys, this is the ideal case. Do it. But, if you can't stick with that ideal case, do take precautions."

Yeah, I'd be for that type of approach. Teach and encourage abstinence as the only 100% safe means, but mention as well the facts regarding condom use, rather than just pretending they dont exist... or lying about the facts.

I think they're just very careful about taking that approach as not to seem like they are advocating for something immoral and with a failure rate. If I had to guess, I would assume many of them (the clergy doing mission/charity work in Africa that is), probably feel pretty conflicted about trying to do the right thing and what the best way is to handle the situation.
"Of course, everyone will claim they respect someone who tries to speak the truth, but in reality, this is a rare quality. Most respect those who speak truths they agree with, and their respect for the speaking only extends as far as their realm of personal agreement. It is less common, almost to the point of becoming a saintly virtue, that someone truly respects and loves the truth seeker, even when their conclusions differ wildly." 

-walsh
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RE: If you're pro-life, how far do you take that? - by Catholic_Lady - August 7, 2018 at 12:40 pm

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