RE: The absolute absurdity of God
August 7, 2018 at 3:38 pm
(This post was last modified: August 7, 2018 at 3:41 pm by SteveII.)
(August 7, 2018 at 3:05 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote:(August 7, 2018 at 2:57 pm)SteveII Wrote: It seems obvious (from reasoning) that any being with free will will choose imperfectly. A complete relationship requires free will. Other components of a maximally fulfilling life requires free will. If God wanted creatures that could have maximum fulfillment and relationships (including with him) then free will was necessary. And then we are back to free will inevitably leads to sin.
In case anyone wants to bring up God having free will, he also has other characteristics--including omniscience and being necessarily the standard of goodness.
But why? Are we the fruition of god’s desires? If so, that’s pretty unjust for a supposedly perfectly just being, considering how many of us he knew before hand would end up in eternal hell.
I for one am grateful he decided to do it. It is only unjust if we did not all have a choice to respond to him. I would argue it would be entirely unjust not to create me because some atheist refuses to consider the greater reality around her and does not follow that observation to find out all she can to the best of her ability.
(August 7, 2018 at 3:36 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Cute how you slip 'personal' into your list of characteristics a first cause must have.
Has to be on the list. A decision is a thing only a person can make. A first cause must have within itself a mechanism to cause an effect that was not there from eternity past.