(August 7, 2018 at 3:38 pm)SteveII Wrote:(August 7, 2018 at 3:05 pm)LadyForCamus Wrote: But why? Are we the fruition of god’s desires? If so, that’s pretty unjust for a supposedly perfectly just being, considering how many of us he knew before hand would end up in eternal hell.
I for one am grateful he decided to do it. It is only unjust if we did not all have a choice to respond to him. I would argue it would be entirely unjust not to create me because some atheist refuses to consider the greater reality around her and does not follow that observation to find out all she can to the best of her ability.
(August 7, 2018 at 3:36 pm)Crossless2.0 Wrote: Cute how you slip 'personal' into your list of characteristics a first cause must have.
Has to be on the list. A decision is a thing only a person can make. A first cause must have within itself a mechanism to cause an effect that was not there from eternity past.
Ok, a ‘mechanism’. Intentionality doesn’t necessarily follow.
