(August 8, 2018 at 5:08 am)robvalue Wrote: I'd like to bring this point up again though: laws are about what is best for society, they are not about judging what is and isn't moral.This is exactly right.
Is it best for society to allow women to have abortions? That is the question. Of course, I'm not suggesting there is a right or wrong answer, nor a simple one. It's a matter of opinion, and a matter for continued debate. Personally, this alternative of restraining women seems far worse to me for society; as does causing women to self-abort or seek back street abortions.
You can't afford rights to an unborn without severely overriding the rights of the mother. That's the biggest issue here for me. Is that trade-off worth it? (Where exactly you draw the line for late term abortions is a separate question.)
I personally think it's clear that abortion is terrible. However, outlawing it does not even reduce the numbers of women doing it. We have to deal with reality.
And if a person really, really cared about reducing abortions, they would look into measures that have that end result. Measures like:
Access to women's health Care
Access to birth control for all adults
Sex education for young people. Sex education. Not moral education.
Access to safe abortions. Seems counterintuitive but people that feel like they have no choice are more likely to make very drastic ones.
And stop supporting Measures that make abortion more likely:
Moralizing sex
Pushing abstinence
Restricting birth control access
Resstricting woman's access to health Care.
If you support any of the latter, you must care about those things more than the lives of all of those innocent babies
You need to pick a side. Moralize sex or save the babies. History shows you simply cannot do both.
Did you know your stance on abortion is no predictive indicator of you will have one or not? A pro life person is equally likely to get one when they have an unwanted pregnancy.
It's rife with hypocrisy and frankly I'm tired of it.
PS Road runner, you still have not answered my question. Maybe third time is the charm. Is there any circumstances you can think of where any number of fetuses are worth saving over any single individual person?
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