(August 13, 2018 at 7:53 pm)RoadRunner79 Wrote:(August 13, 2018 at 6:22 pm)Mister Agenda Wrote: That doesn't strike you as an ad hoc way of getting out of the past infinite problem at all to you? It sounds to me like you're just assigning your God the characteristics it needs to make your arguments work.
It seems to be hardly ad hoc; if the eternalness of God goes back milenia. This is not something that was just made up, as a solution to a problem.
If God exists eternally in the past, he's a past-infinite himself, and the same argument against the universe ever occurring because the past is infinite applies to God. Making God 'timeless' is clearly an attempt to have your cake (eternal God) and eat it too (can somehow begin a universe without time being involved beforehand). It has the advantage of sounding profound and the disadvantage of not making any additional sense if you think about it for ten seconds.
I'm not anti-Christian. I'm anti-stupid.


