(September 18, 2011 at 7:40 pm)padraic Wrote: For the final time: I do not argue with apologists. I reject the notion the truth can be revealed by reason alone and show me your (credible) evidence or fuck off.
That we disagree is fine. Although unsurprised by your patronising,I'd be obligedif you didn't make it a habit. Oh, I think patronsing your opponent comes under the heading of an ad hominem attack..
Though I am confused about how this will help considering the fact that even if I were to beat you soundly you would say I haven't proven God. I am also confused why you must be offensive if your response and not respond to any of my question but expect me to give you evidence though I came to you to explain my viewpoint that in no means that you are not responsible for answering my questions. Oh well can't win them all!
1. The Universe is VERY VERY finely tuned! It is like..... Lets use gravity as an example(Collins example to be exact). If we use an example of one of those old fashioned radio dials, that goes all the way across the universe and is broken down into inch increments which means there would be billions upon billions of inches. Each dial represents the range of force strengths in nature gravity being weakest and the strong nuclear force that binds protons and neutrons together as the strongest. Now if you moved it even a inch it would increase gravity a billionfold. Now we also have another arguement that we may be the only life in the universe. This sounds absurd but you have to realise that even bacterium needs at least 16 essential elements. Not just any planetary body will have all these and also have relativly good conditions for sustaining life. Also to refute the comment before its made Carbon is a very unique element in the sense of that... It is most conductive for life by far( in terms of if someone were to make the arguement that life may not be based off of Carbon but instead off of something like Silicon), in the sense that Carbon can made strong bonds with itself while maintaining strong bonds to other atoms. More evidence for God is the flagellum, Genetic studies have shown that between 30 and 35 proteins are needed to create a functional flagellum. We don't even know the roles of these proteins.
2. The second part is much shorter but asks you to look philosophically at Science. If you asked them most scientists would say that the standard theory of matter is true. Yet is it? Well ask your self this: What does it mean to say that quarks, neutrinos, and electrons exist? No one has ever seen or heard or touched one of the particles and no one ever will.They are unoberservable theoratical entities; That is they exist in theories but we cannot directly observe them.
