RE: Good Christians only may answer...
September 18, 2018 at 11:46 am
(This post was last modified: September 18, 2018 at 11:49 am by Drich.)
(September 18, 2018 at 11:18 am)Fake Messiah Wrote:(September 18, 2018 at 9:34 am)Neo-Scholastic Wrote: Citations, please.
And BTW you have the same literal and ignorant approach to scripture as the very people you ridicule for having a literal and ignorant approach to scripture.
"Citations, please." and then you proceed the next sentence completely aware that these people exist and compare me with them for taking Bible "too literal", while your beloved Drich takes Bible so literal that he thinks universe is 6000 years old, that humans lived with dinosaurs on the ark during the world wide flood and all other nonsense from the Bible - but yeah I'm problematic.
Two things what is with the double standard? can your own hypocrisy not withstand your own supposed checks and balances? Can't you provide information on the same level that you demand it?
Like for instance you complete misrepresentation of my beliefs. you are so lazy you just assume my position despite me spending hours in debate with your betters concerning our origins. In that It is my belief because there is no time line established between the end of genesis 2 which marks the end of the garden narrative (which occurred on day 3 and all creation in chapter 2 was garden only and performed by Christ) and chapter 3 the fall of man which happened 6000 years ago. evolution and everything science has to say could have very well happened between genesis chapter 2 and genesis chapter 3. the world can be as old as you douche bags say it is and it does not change the literal seven day creation narrative set in genesis.
I simply believe man created in the garden was exiled 6000 years ago to live along side evolved man created day 6 according to chapter 1 who evolved with the rest of the planet while the garden was kept seperate.
See what prayer does? it answers little problems like this and does not change a letter of the bible or anything you douche bags believe. It simply give understanding of the things we kept in the dark.
(September 18, 2018 at 11:43 am)Crossless2.0 Wrote:(September 18, 2018 at 11:35 am)Drich Wrote: googled snake handling deaths I got a 2018 story on a 2014 event and the guy lived... where are you getting this mountain of people dying because of snake handling.
I don't vouch for the accuracy of this information, but Wikipedia lists the following in their article on Snake Handling. Not exactly a mountain of people dying, but -- if accurate -- a bunch of completely unnecessary deaths, nonetheless:
- The first report of a death from a serpent bite occurred in 1922 at the Church of God Evangel.[55]
- In 1955, George Went Hensley, the founder of modern snake handling in the Appalachian Mountains, died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a service in Altha, Florida.[7][56][57]
- In 1961, Columbia Chafin Hagerman died after being bitten by a timber rattlesnake during a service at the Church of the Lord Jesus, Jolo, West Virginia.[52][58][59]
- In 1967, Jean Saylor, wife of a snake-handling preacher, died after being bitten by a rattlesnake in Bell County, Kentucky.[60]
- In 1982, Rev John Holbrook died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a service at the Lord Jesus Church in Jesus' Name in Mullensville, West Virginia.[61][62][63][64][65]
- In 1983, Mack Ray Wolford died after being bitten by a timber rattlesnake during a service at the Lord Jesus Temple in Mile Branch, near Iaeger, West Virginia.[63][65][66][67]
- In 1995, Melinda Brown from Parrottsville, Tennessee died after being bitten by a timber rattlesnake during a service at the Full Gospel Tabernacle in Jesus Name in Middlesboro, Kentucky.[30][37][47][68][69]
- In 1995, Kale Saylor (husband of Jean), a Pentecostal preacher, died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a service at a church in Crockett, Kentucky.[60]
- In 1997, Daril Colins died after being bitten by a snake during a service in Bell County, Kentucky.[60]
- In 1998, John Wayne "Punkin" Brown (husband of Melinda), a snake-handling evangelist, died after being bitten by a timber rattlesnake during a service at the Rock House Holiness Church in rural northeastern Alabama.[37][70]
- In 2004, Dwayne Long, a Pentecostal pastor, died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a service in Jonesville, Virginia.[71][72][73]
- In 2006, Linda Long died after being bitten by a timber rattlesnake during a service at East London Holiness Church, London, Kentucky.[45][74][75][76]
- In 2012, Mark Randall "Mack" Wolford (son of Mack), a Pentecostal pastor, died after being bitten by a timber rattlesnake while officiating at an outdoor service at Panther Wildlife Management Area, West Virginia.[67][77]
- In 2014, Jamie Coots died after being bitten by a timber rattlesnake during a service at the Full Gospel Tabernacle in Jesus Name in Middlesboro, Kentucky.[40][69][78] Coots starred in the TV series Snake Salvation and his death was widely reported.[79]
- In 2015, John Brock died after being bitten by a rattlesnake during a service at Mossie Simpson Pentecostal Church in Jenson, Kentucky.[46][80][81][82]
so 14 people in 70+ years...
Isn't that a far cry from fakers claim of people dying all the time? more people died in the last hurricane by almost double. why make such a dubious claim?