Cosby Sentence

[LadyForCamus]

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The bottom line is, I'm telling you as a matter of first-hand, personal experience, women can and do get raped and don't report it for decades. I would report in a second if anyone who fucked with me was about to be in a position of power. There you go. You now know it's possible. It's not a viable argument against his guilt.

I was 16. He was in his 20s. I let him kiss me at a party. When I was the last one left at the party and tried to go home, he said, "Don't you think it's too late for that?" I didn't resist. I said no, but I otherwise mentally and physically flatlined for the duration of what happened next. Then, I told no one. I was repulsed by him. I was embarrassed to tell anyone he'd touched me. I still am. Even writing this now, I feel like I will be judged as a "victim," "a whore," "a liar," "a drama queen," etc. I think people judge me personally for having been raped. I'm probably right. That's just one of multiple situations that occurred in my life, two because I was a helpless child (not particularly traumatic events, but molestation nonetheless) and two more because I drank around the wrong boys in my teens. Do you know how many people would blame me for the situations that happened in my teens? I do, because I see you people verbally assassinating other people like me on a daily basis. Fuck reporting. People still just want victims to shut up and keep feeding the machine.

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Sadly, this is what it’s come to, to get something through Huggy’s dense skull.  I can’t let ShellB be all alone in her painful disclosure:

I went to a house party with my friends the year after I graduated college.  I drank too much, threw up, and passed out in one of the bedrooms.  My friends tried to get me to leave with them but I was too wasted.  I woke up on my stomach, pants and underwear pulled down, and someone I couldn’t see pushing himself inside me.  I yelled at him to stop twice, and he didn’t.  I twisted around and looked at him, trying to push him off of me.  He said: “you don’t even know what’s going on right now.” and stormed out of the room. I just wanted to go home, but the acquaintance who’s house it was insisted on calling the cops.  I had no choice in this. I didn’t want him too.  I just wanted to go home.  I was basically forced to report it.  My roommate at the time guilted me into driving all the way back the next day to give a formal statement at the police headquarters because she had suffered a similar assault in HS, and never told anyone.  I wanted NONE of this. I did what other people wanted me to do. To this day I regret reporting it, because nothing came of my painful retelling of the incident. It accomplished literally nothing.  If I could go back in time, I would have never told the police. The embarrassment, the shame, the questioning...was as bad as the assault.  Up your nose with a rubber hose, Huggy.

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Ladies, never once did I state I didn't believe you, or question why one would wait so long, but at the same time, we shouldn't just automatically assume one is guilty because he's accused by any number of women.  When accusers are giving contradicting testimony or caught lying we need to take a step back and be objective.

I hate to bring up race, but race has ALWAYS been at the center of issues in America, it is what it is.

Never in the history of this country has a white woman accused a black man of rape and not been believed. Plenty of men have been lynched, whole black communities have been massacred and burned to the ground over rape ALLEGATIONS (Tulsa, Rosewood ect.). In fact "Black wall street" (Tulsa) was bombed from the air over a white woman accusing a black man of rape.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greenwood,_Tulsa

The Tulsa Race Massacre occurred in late May 31 and June 1, 1921. During the massacre, 35 square blocks of homes and businesses were torched by mobs of angry whites. The ransacking began because of the alleged assault of a white elevator operator, 17-year-old Sarah Page, by a black shoeshiner, 19-year-old Dick Rowland. The attack killed hundreds and left an estimated 10,000 people homeless. The city government of Tulsa conspired with the mob, arresting more than 6,000 black residents and refusing to provide them with protection or assistance. Law enforcement officials used airplanes to drop firebombs on buildings, homes, and fleeing families, stating they were protecting against a "Negro uprising." The massacre was omitted from state and local records, and "rarely mentioned in history books, classrooms, or even in private."

My next point is going to sound braggadocios, but from my experiences of being an average young single male, I have been approached by plenty of women, and have had sex with plenty of women. I can count on three fingers the amount of times I've approached a woman vs. the amount of time a woman has approached me, again, I'm just average.  If any of those women decided to accuse me of rape, I'd be screwed if not for the statute of limitations, because how would I defend myself after all those years? I couldn't even tell you some of their names, let alone produce any evidence in my defense.

Cosby was a rich good looking dude so I could only imagine the amount of women he was approached by, added to the claim that he had to drug these women to have sex with them is absurd, again, based on my experience.

So my question to you ladies is...

Is it wrong to ask for evidence to support an accusation of rape?

Huggy, no one is saying that is wrong.  What Shell and I are trying to communicate to you through our personal experiences; what people have been trying and failing to get through to you throughout this thread without anyone having to talk personally about their own rapes; is that there are legitimate, justified, psychological reasons victims of sexual assault don’t report the crime to authorities.  The length of time that it takes for a victim to come forward is not related in any way to the likelihood of that person telling the truth about the assault.  Of course, to convict a man in a court of law there should be some corroborating evidence to convince a jury beyond a reasonable doubt.  But, what we’re saying to you is, taking a long time to come forward is not evidence that contradicts an alleged assault.  “If she was really raped, she would have told someone”, is a non-sequitur.