(October 8, 2018 at 10:12 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: 1. If you have heard our arguments and found them [UN]convincing, consider we have heard your rebuttals and found them unconvincing.
2. If we have the burden proof, you have the burden to accept the proof if proven to you or show that the burden has not been met.
3. God by definition is the most important being, if an approach to this is made by jest and his scriptures approached with no seriousness, then whether he exists or not, forgive Theists for seeing it irrational and evil to belittle what by definition most revered being in existence.
4. It won't ever make sense that hating goodness for what is: is irrelevant to morality and hence, if goodness is God's light that hating that mystic link, would be hating for what it is at it's heart.
5. When we value beings, we value the value in them, if you hate value being linked to God, and value is linked to God, do you hate or love true value of things or do you just make up what value is and attribute to them...try to understand not only the issue of God existence is of vital importance then to love and appreciating and empathy, but that truly to act for the face of God in all things requires to recognize the face of God and his word of light brought to life.
6. I can't take your [TESTIMONIAL] that you are honest and truly assess all evidence seriously - in light of how you guys have display an attitude to dialogue over the years. You chose to be silly. And hence, your [TESTIMONIAL] has become meaningless to me as far as these issues go.
1. Yes, we are presently mutually incomprehensible. This is because you argue with loaded terminology.
2. You have not met the burden of proof.
3. The ontological argument fails, so you can't just define God into existence. It follows that referring to "his scriptures" is question begging.
4. You can't say atheists "hate goodness" on the basis of defining your God as good. That is also question begging.
5. Hating God makes no sense if we don't believe he exists.
6. Some people here are silly. Others are serious. Why talk to the silly and ignore the serious?
You need to read a book on logical fallacies. I would recommend Thinking from A to Z by Nigel Warburton.