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Silly Atheists.
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RE: Silly Atheists.
(October 8, 2018 at 10:12 pm)MysticKnight Wrote: 1. If you have heard our arguments and found them convincing, consider we have heard your rebuttals and found them unconvincing.

All your arguments, and those used by theists in general, have all been shown to be logically invalid and/or unsound. Which makes them unconvincing by definition.

The fact that you, and other theists are unable to detect the fallacies in your arguments, goes more to your confirmation bias. You are dead set to lead the evidence to support your beliefs, instead of following the evidence where it leads.

Quote:2. If we have the burden proof, you have the burden to accept the proof if proven to you or show that the burden has not been met.

Yes, if you meet your burden of proof, I will be compelled, by my intellectual honesty, to accept your claim.

1000's of years and still waiting for the above to occur...


Quote:3.  God by definition is the most important being, if an approach to this is made by jest and his scriptures approached with no seriousness, then whether he exists or not,  forgive Theists for seeing it irrational and evil to belittle what by definition most revered being in existence.

I am not completely sure what you are saying here.

When I was still a theist, I was completely sincere in my search. It was my sincere search, and a modicum of intellectual honesty that lead me to being unconvinced that a god exists.

And as far as the Qur'an is concerned, it is not evidence for your god, IT IS THE CLAIM!

Quote:4. It won't ever make sense  that hating goodness for what is: is irrelevant to morality and hence, if goodness is God's light that hating that mystic link, would be hating for what it is at it's heart.

5. When we value beings, we value the value in them, if you hate value being linked to God, and value is linked to God, do you hate or love true value of things or do you just make up what value is and attribute to them...try to understand not only the issue of God existence is of vital importance then to love and appreciating and empathy, but that truly to act for the face of God in all things requires to recognize the face of God and his word of light brought to life.

I wish you could restate the above a little more clearly and succinctly.

Quote:6. I can't take your testification that you are honest and truly assess all evidence seriously - in light of how you guys have display an attitude to dialogue over the years. You chose to be silly. And hence, your testification has become meaningless to me as far as these issues go.

Maybe the problem is not us, but the quality of the dialog?

I take every one of your posts seriously (in hopes that you will one day say something compelling). I evaluate each one with regards to logic and evidence.

Why is it our fault that all your arguments fail to stand up to scrutiny? Don't blame us for not being as gullible as you are.

You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.
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Silly Atheists. - by MysticKnight - October 8, 2018 at 10:12 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by LadyForCamus - October 8, 2018 at 10:15 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by MysticKnight - October 8, 2018 at 10:26 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by LadyForCamus - October 8, 2018 at 10:52 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Aoi Magi - October 9, 2018 at 10:02 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Astreja - October 9, 2018 at 3:10 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by KevinM1 - October 8, 2018 at 10:22 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by no one - October 8, 2018 at 10:24 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Minimalist - October 8, 2018 at 10:25 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Minimalist - October 8, 2018 at 10:27 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Whateverist - October 8, 2018 at 10:59 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Neo-Scholastic - October 9, 2018 at 9:35 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Cod - October 9, 2018 at 9:42 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by OakTree500 - October 9, 2018 at 9:51 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Neo-Scholastic - October 9, 2018 at 11:07 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Crossless2.0 - October 9, 2018 at 11:10 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by no one - October 8, 2018 at 10:29 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Fireball - October 8, 2018 at 10:58 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - October 8, 2018 at 11:13 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by DodosAreDead - October 8, 2018 at 11:15 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by KevinM1 - October 8, 2018 at 11:19 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Minimalist - October 9, 2018 at 12:52 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Nay_Sayer - October 8, 2018 at 11:22 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - October 8, 2018 at 11:24 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by LadyForCamus - October 8, 2018 at 11:28 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - October 8, 2018 at 11:35 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by KevinM1 - October 8, 2018 at 11:49 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Pat Mustard - October 9, 2018 at 5:57 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by KevinM1 - October 9, 2018 at 12:18 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Peebo-Thuhlu - October 8, 2018 at 11:55 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Gwaithmir - October 9, 2018 at 12:19 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Reltzik - October 9, 2018 at 12:24 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by pocaracas - October 9, 2018 at 12:37 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Rahn127 - October 9, 2018 at 12:47 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Bob Kelso - October 9, 2018 at 1:07 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Cod - October 9, 2018 at 3:29 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Amarok - October 9, 2018 at 3:50 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - October 9, 2018 at 5:23 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by OakTree500 - October 9, 2018 at 5:37 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by I_am_not_mafia - October 9, 2018 at 5:43 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by robvalue - October 9, 2018 at 6:29 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by OakTree500 - October 9, 2018 at 6:49 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by robvalue - October 9, 2018 at 7:16 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by chimp3 - October 9, 2018 at 6:35 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Amarok - October 9, 2018 at 6:39 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Joods - October 9, 2018 at 6:41 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by I_am_not_mafia - October 9, 2018 at 6:59 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 9, 2018 at 7:03 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Belacqua - October 9, 2018 at 8:06 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by RobbyPants - October 9, 2018 at 9:20 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Alan V - October 9, 2018 at 11:12 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by no one - October 9, 2018 at 12:36 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Crossless2.0 - October 9, 2018 at 12:37 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by robvalue - October 9, 2018 at 12:51 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by LastPoet - October 9, 2018 at 12:49 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Simon Moon - October 9, 2018 at 1:02 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Neo-Scholastic - October 9, 2018 at 1:17 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Simon Moon - October 9, 2018 at 1:36 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Neo-Scholastic - October 9, 2018 at 3:49 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Crossless2.0 - October 9, 2018 at 3:58 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Neo-Scholastic - October 9, 2018 at 8:12 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Amarok - October 9, 2018 at 8:37 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Reltzik - October 9, 2018 at 10:01 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Simon Moon - October 10, 2018 at 3:45 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Neo-Scholastic - October 9, 2018 at 1:27 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Neo-Scholastic - October 9, 2018 at 1:11 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Crossless2.0 - October 9, 2018 at 1:18 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Homeless Nutter - October 9, 2018 at 1:12 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Mister Agenda - October 9, 2018 at 3:11 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Minimalist - October 9, 2018 at 3:59 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by no one - October 9, 2018 at 6:11 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Alan V - October 9, 2018 at 6:27 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by KevinM1 - October 9, 2018 at 7:58 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Minimalist - October 9, 2018 at 10:41 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Little lunch - October 10, 2018 at 7:58 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Gawdzilla Sama - October 10, 2018 at 8:07 am
RE: Silly Atheists. - by LadyForCamus - October 10, 2018 at 12:11 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Dr H - October 10, 2018 at 3:49 pm
RE: Silly Atheists. - by Reltzik - October 10, 2018 at 3:54 pm

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