RE: The world's population should be at most 50 million.
October 10, 2018 at 12:11 pm
(This post was last modified: October 10, 2018 at 12:23 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
The method I just presented to you is site independent. You can set it up in an abandoned walmart parking lot. You can service the people who used to come to the walmart, without the need for biofuel shipping...which is still a pollutant and still a problem at some level. It also saves water. Unlike no till, there's nothing -to- til, and no tractor dragging a drum. The mechanical work is in the form of air lift - easily handled by solar (whereas tillage obviously isn't). The chemical work is nonexistent, preventative management is relied on, instead.
Why would the population need to come down if we can produce more food in less space, locally, with less pollution and greater conservation of water..while providing higher wages for the producers?
Really try to work that one out. See if it's more than an ideological sticking point, pessimistic malthusianism that's a holdover from the 19th century intellectual tradition, long demonstrated to be wrong before innovation outstripped the concern if it were right.
Let me put it to you a different way. If we assume that theres a carrying capacity for earth, we make that assumption based on current patterns of use. Alt ag and alt energy can produce much more food and free up nearly two times over again the amount of freshwater available to us. So, if a person tells me that 10bil is earths limit...I'mma contend that it's closer to 30, at least - and that's ignoring future innovation and improvements to existing infrastructure. That's just what we know now.
Our problems are economic..they are not a necessary consequence of population. We already know that we can do this, but it's cheaper and more profitable to do it with a tractor, to do it with oil. Hell, we -could- already feed everyone..we just don't wanna. We -could- arrange for everyone to have access to potable water. We just don't wanna.
I see only two paths to a greener future. We either convince people of the profitability of green tech, or we seize control of the means of production (I prefer this one). In either case, having fewer or no children does nothing, or worse, hurts. Whoop-tee-da, somebody didn't have the kid they didn't wanna have. Saving the world, one unborn human at a time.
Or, honestly, not.
Why would the population need to come down if we can produce more food in less space, locally, with less pollution and greater conservation of water..while providing higher wages for the producers?
Really try to work that one out. See if it's more than an ideological sticking point, pessimistic malthusianism that's a holdover from the 19th century intellectual tradition, long demonstrated to be wrong before innovation outstripped the concern if it were right.
Let me put it to you a different way. If we assume that theres a carrying capacity for earth, we make that assumption based on current patterns of use. Alt ag and alt energy can produce much more food and free up nearly two times over again the amount of freshwater available to us. So, if a person tells me that 10bil is earths limit...I'mma contend that it's closer to 30, at least - and that's ignoring future innovation and improvements to existing infrastructure. That's just what we know now.
Our problems are economic..they are not a necessary consequence of population. We already know that we can do this, but it's cheaper and more profitable to do it with a tractor, to do it with oil. Hell, we -could- already feed everyone..we just don't wanna. We -could- arrange for everyone to have access to potable water. We just don't wanna.
I see only two paths to a greener future. We either convince people of the profitability of green tech, or we seize control of the means of production (I prefer this one). In either case, having fewer or no children does nothing, or worse, hurts. Whoop-tee-da, somebody didn't have the kid they didn't wanna have. Saving the world, one unborn human at a time.
Or, honestly, not.
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