(October 12, 2018 at 1:48 am)vulcanlogician Wrote:(October 12, 2018 at 4:31 am)DLJ Wrote: Truth is relational and so are right and wrong.If I told you that because there was built in bias, science has no objectivity...what would you think?
Truth is relational to an epistemology. (The sense of) right and wrong are relational to a baseline/threshold.
So, yes, you can. But bias is built in to this so ... no objectivity.
I'd think I may have to agree. But I would argue that the methodologies have been designed to reduce bias as much as possible and have self-correcting mechanisms.
(October 12, 2018 at 1:48 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: ...
The answer, in good faith...is yes, you think that the sky is blue.
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Right here, right now, it is not blue
-Points up.
And not because it's night-time but because it's monsoon season and I'm 31 floors up (on a hill) and the sky is white.
(October 12, 2018 at 1:48 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: ...
Do you actually believe that assaulting a child, for example..isn't really right or wrong?
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Well, that's a different question. Now you are asking about my, personal, first-person singular possessive, beliefs.
I thought you were trying to establish objectivity.

The PURPOSE of life is to replicate our DNA ................. (from Darwin)
The MEANING of life is the experience of living ... (from Frank Herbert)
The VALUE of life is the legacy we leave behind ..... (from observation)
The MEANING of life is the experience of living ... (from Frank Herbert)
The VALUE of life is the legacy we leave behind ..... (from observation)