Does Quran prove God?

[robvalue]

In the other thread you say we can’t subjectively value ourselves unless we believe in objective value. I value myself and everything in my life on a subjective basis, but I don’t believe in objective value.

It seems value is used to meant to mean "worth", in some regard. You’re saying I have a specific amount of worth. This doesn’t make sense to me, without it being a worth to [something]. I could be worth nothing to anyone, yet I could still live. And I don’t see what relevance it is how much god values us, or if he’s not present to value us.

If we have an inherent value (which I don’t think makes sense), then we have it, regardless of whether some master decoder is around to find out what it is. You claim I have it through evidence, and if that’s so, then that’s as far as it goes. No other contingency required. If it’s not clear whether I have it or not, then clearly I can exist without it, potentially.