RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any? Simplified arguments version.
October 12, 2018 at 2:28 pm
(October 12, 2018 at 2:17 pm)Grandizer Wrote:(October 12, 2018 at 1:49 pm)Aliza Wrote: I also wonder why atheists bother asking that question. In asking that, they're issuing me a challenge and they know I don't have an answer for it. But somehow, they think I've never thought of that question, have never pondered it, and that somehow in asking me this I'm supposed to have this instant moment of sudden realization that everything I've ever believed is false.
I don't know where G-d comes from and I don't really give a shit because my belief isn't based on my ability to explain the origins of G-d. My belief is based on my evaluation of the material that's been presented to me, and not a single person has given me a good reason for me to change my position. People have given me good reasons to lesson my religious observance, and I've acted on those reasons.
Well, the question is usually meant as a counter to the question that is asked by some theists challenging atheists, namely "where did the universe come from?" We don't usually do it just to taunt theists like you.
More specifically, it is a response to the claim that the universe can't have always existed for whatever their pet reason is. Theists propose to get around that by proposing that the universe was created by some other thing that always existed and don't see that as special pleading. Asking where the god came from is an attempt to point out that if the universe needs a cause then the god needs a cause and if the god doesn't need a cause then the universe (which doesn't include the complexity of being incredibly intelligent) doesn't need a cause.


