RE: Evidence for a god. Do you have any? Simplified arguments version.
October 12, 2018 at 4:15 pm
(October 12, 2018 at 2:39 pm)Aliza Wrote:(October 12, 2018 at 2:10 pm)PRJA93 Wrote: That is so intellectually ridiculous. Why does a god require no evidence but almost everything else in our life does? If I go to cross the street I have to act on evidence. If I am using my stove I have to act on evidence. If I'm choosing a good university I have to act on evidence. Why is it that when choosing a deity to believe in, it requires no evidence to act?
Almost every single other thing in our lives require evidence.
But because you were raised in your faith, you accept it as self-evident. It doesn't need evidence, it's just true to you, for no good reason at all.
Yeah, and what? Why do I need a reason to think something is true when the choices are simply "I feel this way" or "I feel that way"? If someone says you, "I'm in love with Jane and I'm going to ask her to marry me," do you demand evidence of their love and if so, by what metric do you judge another person's affection? -Or do you simply examine the testimony of this person and maybe some indirect evidence as being sufficient to decide, "Yes, I believe they're in love," or "No, I don't believe they're in love." Either way, you never really know for sure.
What explanation do I owe to anyone other than myself to justify a position that has no impact on them what-so-ever? -Now in fairness, I might align myself with a group of people who have loads of wooy ideas and try to influence the public sphere based on those ideas, but I haven't identified myself as that kind of person. I have only addressed the subject of belief.
First of all, your example makes ZERO sense in relation to what I'm saying for a myriad of reasons, but I'll play your little game. In this example you put forth, said person would have some personal evidence that Jane loves them back. In your case, there is nothing. Just an empty exclamation of "I believe in a god... because I do."
In reality you believe in god because, more than likely, you were raised in that set of beliefs and rather than examining those beliefs, which is uncomfortable, you've simply accepted them as true.
So if you're fine with being that intellectually dishonest with yourself, you're right, who cares?
I don't. But I certinaly will not flinch at telling you how intellectually dishonest you are. I wonder if you could get away with that in school?
Professor, you're just going to have to trust that I did my assignment. Why do I owe you any explanation? The assignment is done and that's that.
If you're frightened of dying, and you're holding on, you'll see devils tearing your life away. But if you've made your peace, then the devils are really angels, freeing you from the Earth.