(October 16, 2018 at 3:07 am)robvalue Wrote: If I don’t value wellbeing at all, for example, am I excluded from the conversation? If not, how can any fact apply to me and you at the same time?
PS: there must be a meta-system which values whether valuing wellbeing is a good thing.
No. You are not excluded from the conversation. Immanuel Kant did not value wellbeing and he was a moral objectivist. Sam Harris does. If the two were to debate, the debate would be over who has their moral facts correct. Kant would say Harris is wrong. He would say Harris doesn't have his facts right. No contradictory facts can apply at the same time. That's what all debates in ethics are about.