(October 20, 2018 at 12:32 pm)CDF47 Wrote:(October 20, 2018 at 2:18 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: CDF47, if you want to be taken more seriously, why not try to understand us a little more? As it stands now, you seem like a troll (or, at the very least, troll-adjacent). The mods haven't banned you as such either because you've maintained a civil veneer, or you haven't started spreading your shit outside this thread. Unlike some others here, I see some good in you. You're a bit pedantic, but maybe you have something valuable to contribute to the conversation.
The design argument suffers from this: just because there is order and design to a system, doesn't mean there is a designer. While things like the formation of our solar system remain somewhat of a mystery to us, science has produced some pretty good ideas of how this ordered system (our solar system) might have formed in the wake of (or perhaps even because of) early chaotic activity concerning the sun's formation. Doesn't this indicate that the prime mover itself might be some sort or chaotic system... rather than a God?
I appreciate not getting banned. I am not trolling here at all. I know it gets a bit repetitive because my main point stands the same which I believe is proof of a designer. I keep having to defend that main point.
The arguments you put forward for your main point were comprehensively refuted and yet you didn't add anything new, just kept banging on at the same old stuff.
DNA does not prove or imply a designer.
For example you do not go on to say how the designer designed its design. What was its process? where did it get the materials? etc etc etc.
Show us a truly worked out and evidenced argument as to how it did it and perhaps we'll revisit. At the moment all you say is "I dunno how it happened so it must be magic man".
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.