Never call other humans disbelievers!

[Mystic]

I think you should understand the term as Quran meant to what it means per Quran terms.

If I disbelieve after the knowledge I have, then I am a disbeliever. You said this yourself in an earlier post, and I argued that I do have enough knowledge to consciously disbelieve. In fact, that's what explicit atheists (which is a thing) are doing. They consciously disbelieve the existence of God after much reading and pondering.

I don't think you understand. Moses proved God when he spoke, but Pharaoh and his people were truly in that state of disbelief, per Quran, and the truth only came when his hand turned into a bright light that didn't harm with evil people's eyes (ie. the brightness though super bright cause no damage to eyes and they all saw it bright).

It was then truth became that apparent.

And it was only when Pharoah and his people had a resolve "no matter what signs you bring, we know that you are only a sorcerer", that God judged them too stubborn, because it didn't matter at that point, what level of miracle and sign and proof, but even then, he brought a punishing sign, and they swore they would accept him if he lifted the punishment but they didn't.

Sometimes people are stubborn to what Quran says, like people denying Wilayah of Ali in there even when they know better, but often, people are heedless and don't know better.

All I'm saying is I withdraw judgment.