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Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics.
(September 26, 2011 at 7:34 pm)Statler Waldorf Wrote: Actually they are not, a majority of people living today believe the supernatural exists, and so by definition atheism is the extraordinary claim. Look up the words ordinary and extraordinary.

Logical fallacy: appeal to popularity.

This is not what is meant in the ECREE doctrine.

Quote:A sound argument is not necessarily convincing to an irrational mind, that’s why an argument’s soundness is not determined by whether or not a person like you is convinced by it.
It's not convincing because it's not a rational argument.

Quote:Where do you come up with this garbage? A deductively sound argument is more than enough to meet the burden of proof; it’s the strongest argument that can even be presented.
No, it's not. All you've done is present an untested hypothesis at best.

This does not prove the existence of invisible angels and demons, the afterlife, the history of a demigod who walked the earth and performed miracles or any of the other mythology asserted by Christianity. We need more than conjecture to believe these extraordinary claims.

Quote:You do realize that empiricism is a self refuting position right?

Prove it. Big Grin

Quote:That’s probably why you resort to this sort of whining.

Well, I guess we all have our own definition of what constitutes "whining".
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RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 10, 2011 at 7:47 pm
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 16, 2011 at 12:42 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Ryft - September 18, 2011 at 12:19 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by Sam - September 27, 2011 at 9:57 am
RE: Van Tillian/Clarkian Presuppositional Apologetics. - by DeistPaladin - September 26, 2011 at 9:35 pm

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