(November 7, 2018 at 1:03 am)Khemikal Wrote: You can, and you concede as much simply by making the statement above.Acknowledging subjectivity is not the same thing as declaring inadequacy. My feelings about things are self-evident and internally complete.
If some property of rape makes you x y or z, then there are properties of rape which you observe and to which you respond and about which you have beliefs. This is the realists contention as well. The question then becomes..why do you feel that your own observations and positions on this matter are inadequate or insufficient? Are your beliefs never true? Are your observations always false?
Quote:Different world views.Quote:That's right. "Rape" already carries with it negative connotations, which they would not accept. I think you can reasonably infer that I mean "what we call rape, and consider morally wrong, would not be considered wrong in another social context." It's very possible that the girl herself, while she might not like the forced sex at all, and might in fact very much dislike it, may not conceive of it as morally wrong.
It's possible, at least, but not in any way difficult for realism. Though, I'd have to wonder how many people in the history of people really had no significant misgivings about forced sex..that they weren't enjoying, and very much disliked. How would that tie in with the notion that morality is just an analog for "yuck!". If that were true, it seems like it would fit this case. Your hypothetical here, while possible, is inconsistent with your comments regarding the nature of what makes something bad in the first place.
For example, if your world view includes knights in shining armor that protect fair maidens from having their virtue robbed, rape is likely to disgust you, and the idea of doing it is likely to give you feelings of guilt or revulsion.
If you grow up in a world where women are treated as property, and where the status of a man is largely tied into his sexual conquests, then you are likely to have a different view.
Internally, sexuality is a balancing act. The desire for sex is very strong in most people, and failure to achieve it might lead to all kinds of moral rationalizations (read: incel freaks). The desire not to be demonized ("You monster. You human garbage! How could you do that to that poor young girl!") is also strong. Not only that, signalling certain moral positions is likely to bring very real rewards. Don't tell me that 90% of male feminists aren't just strutting their memes to try and get laid, cuz I'm not buying it.