Subjective Morality?

[bennyboy]

Read my lips: THERE ARE NO MORAL FACTS.  No such thing.  They don't exist.  It's all made up, and is predicated on feelings.  Feelings are subjective, and so morality, being predicated on feelings, is subjective.

Morality isn't predicated on feelings, but rather upon the supposed facts to which those feelings refer.  If morality were solely predicated on feelings, you would be right in saying that morality is subjective.  Since they are not, your belief that morality is subjective seems unsupported.

I'd like an example of any moral idea that isn't predicated on negative feelings.  Maybe I'm wrong, though you can imagine that I kind of doubt it.

Remember my original description of morality-- that it is a mediation among feelings, ideas, and environment, but that it is predicated upon the feelings-- without them, there's really nothing that could sensibly be called morality.  The Googletron Mind might have lots of ideas about how people should behave, but they are only moral ideas if it cares.  If not-- they are just behavioral recommendations (or demands).

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If morality were predicated on the -fact- of having those feelings- that would be subjectivism.

If morality is predicated on the -fact- of mind independent properties about which we have feelings.........this is moral realism

I disagree with your semantics.  The fact of having feelings is subjective agency-- it is not intrinsically moral.

Nor is the fact about objective properties informing feelings moral.  It is at the point of the feelings themselves that a moral idea is formed.