Thanks for all your hard work.
I'm beginning to understand your terminology... which is why I can reject it.
Not a ruse... it's an illusion. A user-illusion.
And the main illusion is "I".
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Progress of a kind.
I don't. I reject the terminology.
Yes.
Too many negatives for me to be able to parse that statement.
Cognition is required for ethics.
Cognition is not required for a moral.
Or at least, that would be the case using Wikipedia's description of Cognition which seems to imply consciousness.
Even the bible and quran are not completely wrong.
Just, mostly.
I'm beginning to understand your terminology... which is why I can reject it.
(November 9, 2018 at 10:08 am)Khemikal Wrote: ...
They would have to try to convince me that my believing that I believe things is an elaborate ruse (and they do..!)
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Not a ruse... it's an illusion. A user-illusion.
And the main illusion is "I".
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(November 9, 2018 at 10:08 am)Khemikal Wrote: ...
That, btw, is motherfuckin progress! Fist-bump.
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Progress of a kind.
(November 9, 2018 at 10:08 am)Khemikal Wrote: ...
We both think that a moral proposition can express a state of belief.
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I don't. I reject the terminology.
(November 9, 2018 at 10:08 am)Khemikal Wrote: ...
We think that morality is about something, that we hold to be true.
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Yes.
(November 9, 2018 at 10:08 am)Khemikal Wrote: ...
So...for us "-show me how/give me a single example of- it's not just feelings" is a closed door of objection, because we have a commitment to cognitivism, now.
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Too many negatives for me to be able to parse that statement.
Cognition is required for ethics.
Cognition is not required for a moral.
Or at least, that would be the case using Wikipedia's description of Cognition which seems to imply consciousness.
Quote:Cognition is "the mental action or process of acquiring knowledge and understanding through thought, experience, and the senses".[1] It encompasses processes such as attention, the formation of knowledge, memory and working memory, judgment and evaluation, reasoning and "computation", problem solving and decision making, comprehension and production of language. Cognitive processes use existing knowledge and generate new knowledge.
(November 9, 2018 at 10:08 am)Khemikal Wrote: ...
(and we can also state that at least some meta ethicists were right about something, as we see it)
Even the bible and quran are not completely wrong.
Just, mostly.
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The PURPOSE of life is to replicate our DNA ................. (from Darwin)
The MEANING of life is the experience of living ... (from Frank Herbert)
The VALUE of life is the legacy we leave behind ..... (from observation)
The MEANING of life is the experience of living ... (from Frank Herbert)
The VALUE of life is the legacy we leave behind ..... (from observation)