DNA Proves Existence of a Designer

[Everena]

It is possible to evolve computer code. In fact genetic algorithms are one way for sure that we know that the evolutionary process works. With it I can easily create systems that you would call irreducibly complex.

I myself never actually know how my AI works after I evolve it. I have a vague idea of the principles but it would take me about three months to analyse it and figure it out what is actually happening. All I do is choose what mechanisms the evolutionary process can play with.

If I had to design my AI and could not evolve it, the task would be orders of magnitude harder.

Now watch him chant the holy mantra's of ID

It is possible for an intelligent conscious being to evolve computer code. It did not evolve itself from nothing.

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What specifically convinces you that complex things can just come to life or come into existence from nothing with no intelligence? And don't say billions of years of evolution because that is a cop-out and a straw man argument.

Well, I mean, the example Iggy gave was a snowflake. Those are complex things that form from simple things. We understand how snowflakes form. And no intelligence is involved.

Look at our solar system. You may be tempted to see "design" in it. Jupiter "serves the purpose" of vacuuming up rogue comets and meteors that might otherwise strike the Earth for instance. But there is no proof that Jupiter was put where it is by a designer. Jupiter is there (most likely) because a cloud of hydrogen gas was there. Then gravity. The end result is a conveniently-placed planet.

And to your last point, evolution does not explain the complexity of organisms. Natural selection does.

Natural selection is part of the theory of evolution and you did not answer the question. Also you have no idea if there is intelligence involved in the formation of a snowflake.

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Welcome to the forums, CDF47. While DNA is certainly complex, many here will argue that the existence of DNA itself does not necessarily indicate design. After all, it is a rather simple thing whose content has become complex after eons of evolution.

I look forward to seeing your defense after others' objections.

Explain how something "becomes complex" without a driving force of conscious intelligence. Also, are you all aware of the most recent discovery regarding DNA by scientists at the University of Washington? 


 "Since the genetic code was deciphered in the 1960s, scientists have assumed that it was used exclusively to write information about proteins. UW scientists were stunned to discover that genomes use the genetic code to write two separate languages. One describes how proteins are made, and the other instructs the cell on how genes are controlled. One language is written on top of the other, which is why the second language remained hidden for so long.
“For over 40 years we have assumed that DNA changes affecting the genetic code solely impact how proteins are made,” said Stamatoyannopoulos. “Now we know that this basic assumption about reading the human genome missed half of the picture. These new findings highlight that DNA is an incredibly powerful information storage device, which nature has fully exploited in unexpected ways.”
The genetic code uses a 64-letter alphabet called codons. The UW team discovered that some codons, which they called duons, can have two meanings, one related to protein sequence, and one related to gene control. These two meanings seem to have evolved in concert with each other. The gene control instructions appear to help stabilize certain beneficial features of proteins and how they are made.

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Everena:
God always has been and always will be


Which one? Zeus? Juipter? Odin? Hanuman? Ra? Or any of the thousands of others that have been abandoned over the centuries?

People relate to God in the way that makes the most sense to them. I personally see God as a massive form of energy, while I respect that others may only be comfortable with a more humanlike version of God.