RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 10, 2018 at 7:36 pm
(This post was last modified: November 10, 2018 at 8:03 pm by CDF47.)
(November 10, 2018 at 10:57 am)Wololo Wrote:(November 8, 2018 at 12:43 pm)CDF47 Wrote: I am an OEC.
Then why the anger towards the fact of evolution. Evolution is a problem for YECs mostly.
I disagree with common ancestry.
(November 10, 2018 at 3:49 pm)Everena Wrote:(May 4, 2018 at 3:28 am)bennyboy Wrote: You had me right up until the point where you totally ignored the fundamental truth that Brahma created everything.
Steps to conflation:
1) Define "information" in a way that covers physical/chemical relationships
2) Say that there's therefore a designer, even though the re-definition in (1) doesn't require one
3) Ignore the fact that two different definitions have been used or implied
1) Define any systematic encoding of information as a "language."
2) Since we all know that languages are communication tools, and only sentient beings can communicate with each other, insist that all encoding of information implies sentient beings.
3) Ignore the fact that two different definitions have been used or implied
Let me add another one.
1) Beautiful things are art
2) Sunsets are beautiful
3) Therefore, an artist must have created sunsets. Must be God.
Or this:
1) Chains are a series of interlocking metal rings
2) Proteins form into chains
3) Therefore, proteins are made of metal.
Oh, wait. . . that last one seems flawed somehow.
Adding billions of years to something does not all of a sudden make it possible. A complex code does not just come into existence from nothing.
(May 4, 2018 at 3:55 am)Little lunch Wrote: I can't wait to dissect the creator to prove that he was also created by another creator.
God always has been and always will be, just like our true selves. We are what is.
(May 4, 2018 at 4:36 am)robvalue Wrote: You said it yourself, we label parts of the DNA with letters. That produces information, for us to try and understand how it works.
I think scientists have a pretty good idea about the origins of DNA, but even if they didn't, that doesn't imply a designer. We would just be lacking an explanation. That's not an invitation to invent explanations.
If someone did design life, they did a horrendous job.
Also, who cares if we are designed anyway? What difference does it make?
I think the designer did a fantastic job designing life. What are your specific problems with it? Are you attracted to other humans or would you rather them look some other way?
(May 4, 2018 at 4:37 am)vulcanlogician Wrote: Ignoramus has a point OP. Just because something is complex and intricate does not necessarily mean it has a creator.
Be careful posting links. We have a 30/30 rule which means no links until you've been here 30 days, made 30 posts. BUT, your links were put there to support your argument so they might not get snipped. Just for future reference. Here's da rules btw. All pretty standard stuff, really. https://atheistforums.org/rules.php
What specifically convinces you that complex things can just come to life or come into existence from nothing with no intelligence? And don't say billions of years of evolution because that is a cop-out and a straw man argument.
Great post.
(November 10, 2018 at 4:41 pm)Everena Wrote:(May 4, 2018 at 5:43 am)CDF47 Wrote: You are missing the part about the information and how it operates. See the videos in my signature. This is obviously designed. The ribosome alone acts like a manufacturing plant assembling complex proteins from amino acids based on the information in the DNA. Just amazing.
I am not 47 or born in 47.
I don't believe there is evidence for a change of kinds or in macro-evolution.
They don't like to talk about macroevolution because the evidence for it is flimsy at best. The only thing that has been proven beyond any doubt is adaption.
Agreed.
(November 10, 2018 at 7:08 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote:(November 10, 2018 at 7:01 pm)Peebo-Thuhlu Wrote:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wave_Rock
Dang. My linking skillz suck.
Complex form arise quite naturall with no intelligence involved/associated all over the place. Jus' sayin'.
That photo is a bad joke compared to the specified functional complexity found in DNA.
The LORD Exists: http://www.godandscience.org/
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8