RE: I wouldn’t be a Christian
November 11, 2018 at 4:25 am
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2018 at 4:29 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(November 11, 2018 at 4:20 am)Belaqua Wrote:Which doesn't change the fact that so much of our post christian clture is based in whatever pre christian ideas they transported. Meanwhile, find me something uniquely christian? Honestly, go look for the underpinnings of any peice of our ideology and see if you don't end up down the bottom of a pre-christian rabbit hole.(November 11, 2018 at 4:09 am)Khemikal Wrote: the notion that -christianity- shaped us..rather than us shaping christianity. Particularly in light of the fact that we -know- that we've been shaping christianity and continue to shape christianity.
You write as if "we" and our culture are pre-Christian. You and I and our culture are post-Christian.
Quote:Christianity did shape "us," in part. In that every one of us came from a dominantly Christian place and time. The fact that before that pre-Christian ideas were adopted into Christianity doesn't mean that somehow a pure culture of "us" continued.Again, christianity didn't just -adopt- western ideas, it's made out of them - it is one. Right down to it's most fundamental conceit..a demi-god by another name.
Quote:The incorporation of these ideas means that there is no us and them. There is only different expression of the same ideas.-and unless those ideas are -christian- ideas.......
You mentioned, a post or so back, how you see so many atheists make comments that seem so very very christian...well, don't you think that "christianity shaped our modern culture and values" just -might- be one of them? That's what the christians swore, ofc, as they pillaged and looted the cultures they had destroyed...and invented puppies..and sliced bread.
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