I wouldn’t be a Christian

[The Grand Nudger]

Do you have a link or a source or something to show me that this is global? And here I'm not saying that only Christianity has an origin story for humans. I'm saying that the notion of a drama with a beginning middle and end for human history is not something I've seen elsewhere. So, please show me something. 

Enjoy.

https://hilo.hawaii.edu/campuscenter/hoh...lMoniz.pdf

Right, but the word "hellene" means Greek. The Roman world was largely hellenized by the adoption of Greek ideas. However, I am asking you for the Greek or Roman origin of the idea of a savior figure. The idea of a savior was common in the hellenized world of the Hebrews, because the Hebrew idea remained. 

If I'm wrong, please show me the Greek or Roman origin of the idea, in places without a direct Jewish influence. 

https://www.metmuseum.org/toah/hd/myst/hd_myst.htm
(savior figures are also a global belief)

An old borrowed ladder of Hebrew origin. Important figures in early Christianity had better or worse knowledge of the Hebrew scriptures, but that doesn't change the origin of the idea. The Revelation of John, for example, is assembled from older Hebrew tropes. He may have misunderstood them or he may have adapted them while knowing that his readers would recognize their origins and see them as more significant for their multiple meanings. 

The revelation of john was one of the last bits added.  It almost didn't make the cut.

Again, if you're going to show me that the concepts and symbols in Christianity that come from the Old Testament in fact have some other origin, I'll need some sort of link or argument. A bit of evidence. 

-For that, you are going to have to do alot of research on your own.  In thread, I'll only mention again that the people who did actually follow the religion of the old testament realized..at the time and up to this day, that the christians were not getting their ideas from the ot, no matter what they claimed.  They weren't wrong..to consider them heretics and pagans.

This is your view of things, not that of the Christians. 

What on earth.....?  I don't believe in magic book or god.  That was the position of a person very important to the construction of christian belief, who thought that, had followers - and was executed for his troubles.  Marcion.

Who is "us"? Are you and I Greeks? Have we preserved a pure Greek culture so as to sway the Christians? Or have the Christians stolen the Greek ideas that they liked and used them to influence European culture for centuries? 

Many of the monuments of western culture, which continue to have relevance in our lives, are Christian. Their use of Greek ideas are shaped and expressed in a Christian idiom. It's true that Michelangelo's Last Judgement is a thoroughly Neoplatonic document in both theology and visual form -- but that's a picture of Christ in the middle, and it's in a Christian church. Am I to think that its Neoplatonic ideas are in fact not really Christian? Even books that aren't explicitly religious are nonetheless shaped by Christian thinking. Proust's novel, for example, while not a religious document, could only have been written in a Catholic culture. It is wildly unGreek. 

Us, is western culture.  So, I'm looking at the above, and I'm seeing that when you spoke of the formative value of christian theology, earlier..in the construction of western culture...you were probably talking more about the fact that christian people did and wrote and sculpted and painted things. Christian theology, itself, is wholly immaterial to that. They would have (and did) paint and write and sculpt things..and even these things changed christian theology.