RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 11, 2018 at 10:23 am
(This post was last modified: November 11, 2018 at 12:22 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(November 10, 2018 at 3:49 pm)Everena Wrote: What specifically convinces you that complex things can just come to life or come into existence from nothing with no intelligence? And don't say billions of years of evolution because that is a cop-out and a straw man argument.
Chaos Theory demonstrates that order arises spontaneously in this universe.
Galaxies, star systems, black holes are complex systems. They all arose naturally.
Your assertion (with no evidence) that complex systems can't "come into existence" is flat out false.
There are countless examples of them.
You say they are "cop-outs" and "straw-men" ... apparently you don't know what a straw-man argument actually is.
Your "cop-out" is nothing but your uninformed opinion, and you dismiss it, as you find it too difficult to address.
No one says anything can just "come to life".
Your assertion that nothing can just "come into existence" is also false.
You have no evidence that anything "just came into existence".
"Coming into existence" is a TEMPORAL process, and it requires time, already in place. It's a nonsensical meaningless phrase that presupposes conditions, not in place.
Reference us to these "discoveries" in "Quantum Biology" and the scientists who made them.
Quote:No, the whys of our existence are left to philosophy. Science only attempts to discover and understand things about an already existing and operating universe.
Nope. Wrong again. You are unable to refute ANY point at all made here ... or any proposed chemistry in this video ...
There are countless examples of science addressing "why" things arise ... like CANCER, (which apparently, according to you, is part of the *awesome* design). LOL
Here's what wrong about creationist "improbable" assertions.
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/abioprob/abioprob.html
There is not one shred of evidence that complex biological systems retain, post mortem, an "identity", nor is there even a proposed mechanism for that.
There is no evidence that human identity even survives, (even though still technically *alive*) catastrophic brain injury.
There is no consciousness ever seen in the absence of at least minimally healthy brains, and that consciousness coincides totally with the degree of brain health and function.
There is no evidence that any part of a human "personal identity" survives biological cessation and decomposition.
"Complexity" IS a straw-man. It is undefined. No one can say what the definition actually is. It's nothing but meaningless "hand-waving". They cannot say what is not "complex enough" thus not requiring a designer, or what the boundary is exactly where a system becomes "complex enough" that it does require a designer. Without precise definitions, it's all a "big nothing" argument.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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Militant Atheist Commie Evolutionist