(November 14, 2018 at 3:44 pm)Khemikal Wrote:(November 14, 2018 at 3:28 pm)Everena Wrote: Everena: When you are using it as your reason that everything came to be, you should have no trouble defining it.Jesus, you're right back to being bad at hitting buttons, huh?
I repeat.....
Everena: So you admit that what you claim to be the explanation of how everything came to be, you cannot even define. Point made.
Quote:Everena: Either it came to be from nothing with no intelligence or it came to be from higher intelligence aka God. There are no other options, sorry.This is what's known as a false dichotomy. A poor argument even when the specifics are unknown, laughable when they are known, and evade the fallacious argument.
Quote:Everena: And? What does that have to do with anything? People have died more tortuous deaths than just from starvation.Indeed! People have died many horrible deaths for many horrible reasons. All of which, ultimately, the responsibility of the meat fairy who made us thusly.
Everena: No, they are the responsibility of the people with free will who chose to do horrible things. Stop blaming God for what evil, selfish people have chosen to do.
Quote:Everena: God does not have a divine plan. We are here and this is OUR challenge. When we intentionally hurt others, we will suffer it back until we learn to be better people. And the design is perfect for our needs here. What problems do you have with the design? Are you attracted to humans? Would you want it to be some other way?Well, that's not what you told us before...you told us that this creation was a soul improvement machine.
Everena: It is exactly what I told you before. Do not confuse me with someone else. I do not believe in an intervening God. And I never would have said machine. Our flesh is designed to look human, just as our true selves look. That is why we are attracted to other humans, and not to animals or rocks.
Quote:Everena: Yes there is. There is a ton of wild food that tastes fanastic all over this planet."Nuh uh, uh huh, nuh uh, uh huh"..meanwhile, even the most cursory glance at the interwebs will yield report after report of the cpollapse of what natural stocks we have not already eradicated. You are welcome to your own opinions, but I will not grant you your alternative facts.
Everena: It's not an opinion. It is a fact.
Quote:Everena: We are choosing to be omnivorous. We can live without meat and millions do.Yeah, I'm sure that's how it works. Back before I was being ensouled..I checked the "omnivory" box. Get outta here with this garbage, you uneducated simpleton, lol.
Everena: Every time you eat meat, that is a conscious decision that you are making.
Quote:Everena: The Christians have cut the starvation problem in this world down by more than in half. We can always do more. This is our challenge to fix our social problemsThat's an impressive claim..who told you that....the christians? They're always saying stupid and stupidly false shit, I think we can both agree there.
Everena: No, it's another fact that people all over the world are aware of. Look it up.
Quote:Everena: LOLSo, no specifics, you just wanted to blurt out a word in frustration? Noted.
Everena: LOL means laughing out loud. OMG
Quote:Everena: No, look up deist. It's what Benjamin Franklin was.............................................................and?
Everena: And gain an understanding of it.
Quote:Everena: Existing on our planetExactly like meat fairy and meat fairies work doesn't...rgr.
Everena: There is no one who believes in fairies, fool. Every time you say that, you prove what a hostile idiot you are.
Quote:NO, and I am not claiming it as a CAUSE for everything that exists, you are and it's vague and means nothing in the context you are using it in.Unimpressive. You do claim, wrongly, that meat fairy is the cause of the things which we ourselves have produced.
Everena: No, I claim higher intelligence was very obviuosly involved in the creation of this universe and planet.
Quote:Everena: Yes, because we also have fire and electricity and salt to purify and a wealth of other materials and resources available on this planet.Gish gallup. Yes, we have all of those things..and we are -still- the explanation for our food, and that our food is so tasty...and this would be true even if there were a meat fairy...which there isn't.
Quote:Everena: God gets credit for creating the planet and every useful thing in it.Unless it's the bad shit..right, then it's our fault and our problem.
Everena: What bad shit are you talking about?
Funny how that works out. We did invent our food, but we didn't invent natural evil. Meat fairy gets credited for our food...we get blamed for natural evil.
Quote:Everena: People here commit evil deeds with their own free will. People keep coming back here lifetime after lifetime to suffer all the pain that they have intentionally caused to others (aka karma, and it is in every single religion). They keep going through the cycle until they become better and more godlike and are deserving of an eternity in paradise.No evil deed of mans created the botfly. That was meatfairy...at least, if what you believe is true.
Everena: Only atheists blame God for what people with free will are doing. Total and utter ignorance.
Quote:Everena": NO, we have free will and we are choosing whether to be evil or to be good.Cool story, but that has nothing to do with all of the natural evil you insist that meatfairy created
Everena: No, you are the one who keeps insisting on that moronic load of atheist bullshit.
and then blame on us for reasons of your being a dunce who doesn't believe in her own silly shit.
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