(November 15, 2018 at 9:25 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote:(November 15, 2018 at 9:15 pm)CDF47 Wrote: i believe there was animal death before, during, and after the time of Adam and Eve.
The perfect being allowed free will and man fell.
There is not one shred of evidence for that Christian (non-Biblical) notion.
There is NOT one shred of evidence that humans (who we KNOW evolved, and KNOW their history) ever once existed in what you claim is "perfect".
There is nothing about a "fall" in the OT. Yahweh said many times he was pleased with Israel.
It is not a "just" thing that innocent generations should be punished for one man. Your gods are not "just".
The role of a messiah was NEVER to save from sin.
Sure there is historical and archaeological evidence.
The fall is when Adam and Eve were evicted from the Garden.
Adam is our great, great, great,..., grandfather and leader. We still suffer due to the fall.
The role of Messiah wasn't full understood until the Lord came to Earth.
The LORD Exists: http://www.godandscience.org/
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8
Intelligent Design (Short Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVkdQhNdzHU
Intelligent Design (Longer Video): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tzj8iXiVDT8