Everena: It did not magically pop into existence with all that we have here, itself. "Things" without intelligence do not do that. It never has happened, never will happen.
Everena: There are only two options. Either you think higher intelligence created this universe (which means you believe in God) or you think nothing created this universe and it just magically created itself.
Everena: False. He requested evidence of God.
Everena: It is true and I provided a link from neuroscience proving it was true.
https://neurosciencenews.com/consciousness-theory-9059/
Everena: Science does not attempt to answer any of the whys of our existence. That is left to philosophy.Anyone who stated otherwise is WRONG. Ask any real scientist. Science attempts to discover and understand how things in our already existing and operating universe work and that is all.
Everena:If they are real scientists, then they will tell you the exact same thing.
Everena: Why? Because the fact that we have food for the estimated 7.8 million different species of conscious life on this planet completely proves you are wrong?
Everena: And by that you mean that you hate it because it proves you wrong. And you are welcome.
Everena: I don't think you understand how this works. If you're an atheist, then you think it is all just here by chance or luck. If you believe in God, then you are awhere that created this planet with food on it for us.
Everena: George Gallup, the most famous statistician who ever lived, said God can be proven statistically see quote https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/george_gallup_113367
Everena:
It is hard math that requires a scientific calculator. There are several videos on youtube explaining how it is mathematically impossible that even a protein would ever form by itself without intelligence
Everena: Yes and so nothingness would not give us a sex drive and a will to live, because how could nothing care if our species survived or continued on? (Hint: It wouldn't and so there is a God who did care)
(November 16, 2018 at 4:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote: No one is telling you that "it" did..Everena: If you are an atheist, then you are indeed claiming it did.
(November 16, 2018 at 4:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote: .so...for the umpteenth time, this is a pointless objection. Go find someone who thinks that, and argue that with them? Why are you wasting your time litigating this with us?
Everena: There are only two options. Either you think higher intelligence created this universe (which means you believe in God) or you think nothing created this universe and it just magically created itself.
(November 16, 2018 at 4:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Meanwhile, the comment that you responded to..with the above..had nothing to do with the above, and remains true regardless of whether "it" all magically popped into existence.
The entire universe..and everything in it, is only evidence of the universe and everything in it.
If you would like to add an entity to that list, you will need evidence for that entity, not evidence for the universe.
Everena: False. He requested evidence of God.
(November 16, 2018 at 4:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote: More pointless lies and still pointless. You made the claim that science does not know how or why we are conscious. That isn;t entirely true..and if it were..it would still only be an argument from ignorance.
Everena: It is true and I provided a link from neuroscience proving it was true.
https://neurosciencenews.com/consciousness-theory-9059/
Everena: Science does not attempt to answer any of the whys of our existence. That is left to philosophy.Anyone who stated otherwise is WRONG. Ask any real scientist. Science attempts to discover and understand how things in our already existing and operating universe work and that is all.
(November 16, 2018 at 4:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote: There's no need...we already have citations from real scientists in the thread..which you could address at any point, if you so chose. You have decided, instead, to memory hole that.
Everena:If they are real scientists, then they will tell you the exact same thing.
Everena: Why? Because the fact that we have food for the estimated 7.8 million different species of conscious life on this planet completely proves you are wrong?
(November 16, 2018 at 4:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote: More because it was almost unbelievably ignorant. If I hadn't heard dumber things on these boards for years I would never have believed that a person could say such a thing and be doing anything -other- than fucking around as a POE.
Everena: And by that you mean that you hate it because it proves you wrong. And you are welcome.
(November 16, 2018 at 4:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote: You're really struggling to get anything right today, huh? I know that our having food isn't a matter of chance or luck - but since I'm an atheist, and gods have nothing to do with our food...you shit the bed pretty hard here.
Everena: I don't think you understand how this works. If you're an atheist, then you think it is all just here by chance or luck. If you believe in God, then you are awhere that created this planet with food on it for us.
Everena: George Gallup, the most famous statistician who ever lived, said God can be proven statistically see quote https://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/george_gallup_113367
(November 16, 2018 at 4:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Lets see the math. You're going to have to show your work.
Everena:
It is hard math that requires a scientific calculator. There are several videos on youtube explaining how it is mathematically impossible that even a protein would ever form by itself without intelligence
(November 16, 2018 at 4:08 pm)Khemikal Wrote: Yes, ev, exactly..we agree? Nothingness doesn't give a shit about us. And?
Everena: Yes and so nothingness would not give us a sex drive and a will to live, because how could nothing care if our species survived or continued on? (Hint: It wouldn't and so there is a God who did care)