RE: Was sin necessary for knowledge?
November 17, 2018 at 2:18 pm
(This post was last modified: November 17, 2018 at 2:24 pm by The Grand Nudger.)
With a few non orthodox caveats specific to late medieval and early ren christian thought (and the classical hellenic foundations from which they were derived) that does seem to be the consensus.
As far as the other question....and stating upfront that I find it problematic to reduce the christian notion of sin to something like simple fealty....I do think that knowledge is a requirement for sin, and insomuch as this knowledge is not present sin, then, would not be possible. That, for example...one could do some action x and be sinful if it is done with knowledge, and not sinful..... done in absence of that knowledge. We routinely make allowance for agency (and impaired or otherwise deficient agency) when considering moral desert. The toddler who finds his daddys gun and blows his playmates head off is niether charged as an adult, nor for murder or manslaughter. The responsible party, as commonly conceived, is actually the adult that created such a situation in the first place. This, too..has parallels in what culpability god has for sin, and we find that represented in the thematic elements of the OT narrative, a narrative not conceived of with christian eschatology in mind.
As far as the other question....and stating upfront that I find it problematic to reduce the christian notion of sin to something like simple fealty....I do think that knowledge is a requirement for sin, and insomuch as this knowledge is not present sin, then, would not be possible. That, for example...one could do some action x and be sinful if it is done with knowledge, and not sinful..... done in absence of that knowledge. We routinely make allowance for agency (and impaired or otherwise deficient agency) when considering moral desert. The toddler who finds his daddys gun and blows his playmates head off is niether charged as an adult, nor for murder or manslaughter. The responsible party, as commonly conceived, is actually the adult that created such a situation in the first place. This, too..has parallels in what culpability god has for sin, and we find that represented in the thematic elements of the OT narrative, a narrative not conceived of with christian eschatology in mind.
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