RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 19, 2018 at 3:53 pm
(This post was last modified: November 19, 2018 at 4:01 pm by Bucky Ball.)
(November 19, 2018 at 3:44 pm)Everena Wrote:(November 19, 2018 at 2:59 pm)Bucky Ball Wrote: "The theory is that the brain is a receiver of our consciousness"
No. Flat out ---- NO.
Once again, Lying Everena has MIS-characterized a scientific article. The article does NOT say what she is claiming.
NO ONE in Neuro-science EVER says that the brain is the "receiver" of consciousness, and she can quote NO SCIENTIST that says that.
Her posted link to PHYS.org, IN THE SECOND sentence, says precisely the opposite.
"that consciousness derives from deeper level, finer scale activities inside brain neurons"
DERIVES .... (is not "received) and in fact is synonymous with "emerges" (from) which is the current thinking. NOT RECEIVED.
Typical religionist lying woo-woo.
Consciousness emerges. It is not received.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5924785/
Everena: Wrong. They have never proven that consciousness emerges from the brain. If you read the link, it explains that their theory accomodates both spiritual approaches and materialist thought.
From the article: "The origin of consciousness reflects our place in the universe, the nature of our existence. Did consciousness evolve from complex computations among brain neurons, as most scientists assert? Or has consciousness, in some sense, been here all along, as spiritual approaches maintain?" ask Hameroff and Penrose in the current review. "This opens a potential Pandora's Box, but our theory accommodates both these views, suggesting consciousness derives from quantum vibrations in microtubules, protein polymers inside brain neurons, which both govern neuronal and synaptic function, and connect brain processes to self-organizing processes in the fine scale, 'proto-conscious' quantum structure of reality."
https://phys.org/news/2014-01-discovery-...rates.html
Additionally, Hameroff has hypothesized from the very beginning, that the brain is merely a receiver of consciousness and the quantum vibrations in the microtubules are being received from outside the body somehow. There are like a million videos of him talking about it on you tube. Here is one that I found in like 2 seconds. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkedayxjWvg
(November 19, 2018 at 3:27 pm)Jörmungandr Wrote: You believe that you had a shared experience and that the cause of that experience was what you thought it was. As pointed out before, it could have been folie a deux, sloppy thinking, or you could indeed have had a shared experience that had a mundane cause. Bringing up things that you think are evidence as to why you're not deluded and your beliefs are true is of no help. Deluded people do the same thing for the subject of their delusions. Once again, no cigar. Try again.Everena: No, no and no. We know what we experienced and you have no clue what anyone else has experienced so stop pretending that you do.
And yes, all mentally ill people are different.
ETA: Delusions aren't a typical feature of Bipolar I, unless we're simply describing things differently. Maybe she needs a better diagnosis. And maybe she's not deluded in the way she thinks she is.
And yes, delusions are common with Bipolar Disorder 1
(November 19, 2018 at 3:29 pm)Gae Bolga Wrote: Everena: You told us earlier that you didn't believe that, that your meat fairy made this planet and this life out of preexisting material. Get your story straight. An intelligently designed liar wouldn't be so incompetent.
Everena: God aka higher intelligence did create this universe with pre-existing materials. My story is straight. You just have some issues with reading comprehension.
Christ almighty, you mean it's not just yours? Sounds like the meat fairy really fucked the pooch, then.
Everena: Sounds more like people fucked themselves.
All delusional people INTERPRET their experiences in a deluded way. You are clearly delusional.
The article says "DERIVED" ... it NEVER says "received".
Your continued LYING is not helping you.
You should be more careful whom you decide to quote, sweetie.
" Penrose states, "I'm not a believer myself. I don't believe in established religions of any kind. I would say I'm an atheist",
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roger_Penrose
Hameroff "Penrose and I suggest that consciousness involves processes at deeper levels, specifically sequences of quantum computations (~40 per second) in structures called microtubules inside brain neurons"
THAT, Lying Everena, is STILL a physical basis in the PHYSICAL BRAIN, from which they say consciousness EMERGES.
Every religion is true one way or another. It is true when understood metaphorically. But when it gets stuck in its own metaphors, interpreting them as facts, then you are in trouble. - Joseph Campbell 
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