(November 19, 2018 at 2:50 pm)Everena Wrote:(November 19, 2018 at 2:43 pm)downbeatplumb Wrote: Theists are the ones that appeal to magic. We look for a naturalistic answer to the origins of the universe.Everena: Wrong. We believe higher intelligence was involved in the creation of this universe. You are the ones who require magic as your explanation. Define "natural" in that context.
And I would like to remind you that no supernatural answer has ever, in the history of the world, been found to actually be an answer to anything when properly investigated.
Show your work.
How did the magic man do its stuff?
Where did it get the stuff to do the creating?
Where was it while it planned the creating?
Where is the evidence that supports all of the above?
Saying magic man dun it slapping your hands and claiming victory is just laughable.
Especially when there are rival ideas for the creation.
Some with evidence some just speculation at the moment but. The higher intelligence is not only not the only idea on the table but by far the least one.
You can fix ignorance, you can't fix stupid.
Tinkety Tonk and down with the Nazis.