RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
November 23, 2018 at 9:41 am
(This post was last modified: November 23, 2018 at 9:43 am by Everena.)
(November 23, 2018 at 8:13 am)Bucky Ball Wrote:Quote:Everena
I know what microtubules are and I know why they are the key to this theory. You know nothing and sound like the ignorant uneducated blathering fool that you are. You never bother to find out what the actual facts are, and I am just forced to prove you wrong over and over again after you've once again spewed some ignorant crap. And didn't we already have this argument? Anyway, you lose. The only time any scientist doubted them was prior to them proving this incredibly important part of their theory in 2014.
And yes, you can partially prove a theory when you have 20 testable predictions and you are able to prove 6 of them as they have. The other 14 predictions are still hypothesis, but NONE are refuted by anyone. Maybe you should learn to read and stop pretending you know anything. https://phys.org/news/2014-01-discovery-...rates.html Oh and Happy Thanksgiving!
(November 23, 2018 at 8:13 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: You know nothing about anything. Absolutely nothing. You're a snake-oli peddler.
No, you are uneducated and you refuse to read and face facts. I have provided you the material. You are now officially a science denier
(November 23, 2018 at 8:13 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: In no way have you answered the objections in what I posted. If ALL eukaryotic cells have micro tubules, like the cells in your ass,
then your ass should be intelligent. Microtubules are the answer to NOTHING, and no real neuro-scientist agrees with this utter clap-trap.
Intelligence? We are not even discussing intelligence!! Consciousness and intelligence have nothing to do with eachother. You don't even understand the subject matter we are discussing! And microtubules are important in the brain as a receiving mechanism for quantum vibrations that they have now proven are happening. What part of that confuses someone as dumb as you?
(November 23, 2018 at 8:13 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: Once AGAIN, the article you referenced IS NOT SAYING what you claim it is saying, just like the first one you MIS-characterized.
What a fucking joke. There is NO scientist that agrees with these idiots and this complete woo-woo.
Posting the SAME thing again just shows all you have is "nothing". No one seriously thinks the location of consciousness is miicro tubules.
LMFAO
You are really claiming that no scientists take them seriously? They are working with a team of neuroscientists, medical doctors, psychologists, physicists, biologists, and cosmologists from all over the world and they have been for like 25 years. Their theory was corroborated by scientists in Japan, and at MIT and at the University of Pennsylvania. Everyone in the scientific community takes them seriously. You just don't like what their theory may eventually prove, which is really just too strange.
(November 23, 2018 at 8:13 am)Bucky Ball Wrote: "MTs have been found to be excellent electronic conductors, conduction taking various routes through the MTs, along their axes, and along and around their surfaces. The tubular structure itself promotes greater conductance than is possible through single tubulins; and conductance increases with MT length.1 Importantly, MTs provide a vector for the electronic conduction. Orch OR theory proposes that MT quantum vibrations (in megahertz, MHz) interfere and produce much slower ‘beat frequencies’, and that these can be recorded by electroencephalography (EEG), a technique which records the collective pattern of neuronal activity in the brain and separates the pattern into bands (α, β, theta, …) of different frequencies. The mentioned beat frequencies are in the gamma range and are typically of 40 Hz frequency.40 The implication is that this 40 Hz gamma frequency is produced somewhere within the brain by its complement of neuronal MTs. Moreover, the beat frequencies, which apparently arise as a consequence of the disposition of tubulin as MTs, result in slower and, thus, more realistic, timescales for the repetitive OR events to be ordered as a conscious substratum than would be possible if the tubulin primary energetic vibrations of around 10 MHz were solely responsible for OR events. Thus, it seems that the organization of tubulin at specific sites into macromolecular MTs, such as occurs at the synaptic inputs1 of animal neurons and the MT-organizing centers of plant cells (see later), assist in the orchestration of OR events as well as the generation of beat frequencies, such as those of 40Hz recorded by EEG."
There is NOTHING in that, that says ANYTHING about what you claim. There is no evidence that consciousness arises in micro tubules. None. Period. All they have demonstrated is that quantum reactions *can* occur in MT.
ALl they have is SPECULATION. If they proved what you are claiming, they would have a Nobel.
They proved NOTHING. AND you actually understand SO LITTLE about it, you are totally UNABLE to restate anything IN YOUR OWN words.
You're a worthless amateur hack.
What a woo-woo joke.
Everena: No, you are the joke. Everyone who is familiar with this theory knows what they are attempting to prove and that they are part of the way to the goal.
"Orch OR was harshly criticized from its inception, as the brain was considered too "warm, wet, and noisy" for seemingly delicate quantum processes. However, evidence has now shown warm quantum coherence in plant photosynthesis, bird brain navigation, our sense of smell, and brain microtubules. The recent discovery of warm temperature quantum vibrations in microtubules inside brain neurons by the research group led by Anirban Bandyopadhyay, PhD, at the National Institute of Material Sciences in Tsukuba, Japan (and now at MIT), corroborates the pair's theory and suggests that EEG rhythms also derive from deeper level microtubule vibrations. In addition, work from the laboratory of Roderick G. Eckenhoff, MD, at the University of Pennsylvania, suggests that anesthesia, which selectively erases consciousness while sparing non-conscious brain activities, acts via microtubules in brain neurons"
"The origin of consciousness reflects our place in the universe, the nature of our existence. Did consciousness evolve from complex computations among brain neurons, as most scientists assert? Or has consciousness, in some sense, been here all along, as spiritual approaches maintain?" ask Hameroff and Penrose in the current review. "This opens a potential Pandora's Box, but our theory accommodates both these views, suggesting consciousness derives from quantum vibrations in microtubules, protein polymers inside brain neurons, which both govern neuronal and synaptic function, and connect brain processes to self-organizing processes in the fine scale, 'proto-conscious' quantum structure of reality."
"After 20 years of skeptical criticism, "the evidence now clearly supports Orch OR," continue Hameroff and Penrose. "Our new paper updates the evidence, clarifies Orch OR quantum bits, or "qubits," as helical pathways in microtubule lattices, rebuts critics, and reviews 20 testable predictions of Orch OR published in 1998 – of these, six are confirmed and none refuted."
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(November 23, 2018 at 9:37 am)LastPoet Wrote:(November 23, 2018 at 8:48 am)Everena Wrote: Thank you. My Thanksgiving was fantastic. I hope yours was nice as well. And I am in hell because this is hell.
I hope you are kidding.
Why are you forcing your way into hell everyday?
I am starting to think we should release you from your pain.
No, I just believe this is hell. All around us people are suffering and in pain.