RE: DNA Proves Existence of a Designer
December 2, 2018 at 7:59 am
(This post was last modified: December 2, 2018 at 8:02 am by Deesse23.)
(December 2, 2018 at 6:25 am)CDF47 Wrote: Systems are made of subsystems and componentsWhy didnt you tell us then, for example, before i just told you?
(December 2, 2018 at 6:25 am)CDF47 Wrote: Also, maybe the redundancy isn't necessary for these molecular machines in the designer's eyes although there is redundancy found everywhere in nature.You just claimed that, while redundancy can be seen everywhere in nature, its also possibly not needed. What a comfortable way to never be wrong. If a redundancy is there, its a design, because....redundancy is a hallmark of ID. If a redundancy is not there, its maybe not needed, because...ID.
You just explained molecular machines are designed, because they are so complex that they fail if a component fails. Yet failure (lacking redundancy) you say is maybe acceptable. If redundancy is not necessary, if fail is acceptable, why make your design so complex. A simpler design, prone to fail equally, would also have been acceptable. If a bacterium does not need to move, why design a flagellum that is complex and prone to failure. Why not design a bacterium without flagellum at all? Why design sone bacteria with one flagellum and other bacteria with multiple ones?
Gods ways are mysterious, right?
Oh, and are you pretending to not ever have heared of Ken Miller or his video debunking your nonsense. I wont post it, because you wont watch it, and if oyu did, and if oyu understood it, you still, after 100 more pages would bring this

(December 2, 2018 at 6:25 am)CDF47 Wrote: For instance, the human body plan. Look at all the redundancy built in.
Yes, just have a look at the two hearts we have for the single most important function (next to mind, which is seated within our brain).
Or maybe the two kidneys........we dont actually need, evidenced by all the people who had one to be removed.
Or possibly the two spines, which protect us from getting completely paralysed by a single incident.
Or the two balls, so we still can procreate after our single spine is broken or our single heart failed.
Lets have a look at the extra-sturdy design of the human neck, protecting vital signal channels so well that complete paralysis (= severed communication of brain with actuation) is almost impossible.
5 toes, we need 5 toes, 4 is totally inacceptable, and 6 is absolutely no option, right?
You know what an unnecessary redundancy is? A waste of resources and an increased risk of failure, due to the increased number of parts. A competent designer would know.
You know what i call a system without any redundancy or degradation for its single most and central functions, but unnecessary redundancies where they arent needed? A lousy system, prone to fail often (which the human body easily does when you look at all the easy ways to get killed). A competent designer would know.
A good system also has something called "plausibility", a countermeasure for receiving wrong input within the specified signal range. Have you ever wonderd why the human senses are so prone to sensory illusions? Why is there not plausibility check to prevent the human body from harm? Why is it that high temperatures actually feel like *cold*, easily leading to be burned, one of the most dangerous conditions to the human body we know (skin violated, barrier between body and environment broken down, body is open to invasion of all kinda deadly stuff). A competent designer would know better.
While specified complexity may or may not be the result of a design (or evolution), if so, it certainly is testament to an incompetent system engineer. Give him my number, i may be able to help him out.
Like i said, its not like you are going to try and actually absorb anything presented to you....you are here to preach gods word with scientific and faith based arguments, dont you?
(December 2, 2018 at 6:39 am)CDF47 Wrote: What's his question? Whether I am here to preach? No, I am not.Yes, you are.
CDF47 Wrote:So I agree that is a really good idea and opportunity to preach God's Word.
Cetero censeo religionem delendam esse