First order logic, set theory and God

[Rahn127]

Drone - I was looking over a previous post of yours in which you said water was the cause and ice the effect ?

Are you of the opinion that water causes ice to form ?

Indirectly, yes. However, I'm of the opinion that causality needs to be appreciated in its totality - in other words, it's not the water that directly caused the ice to form but rather the sum of all phenomenon (nucleation, crystal growth, biochemical processes, and whatnot) + the water that has brought the necessary and suffi­cient conditions to the formation of ice.

WOW !!!

Biochemical processes and whatnot - Will I find that when i do a google search on the formation of ice ?

The answer i was looking for was a loss of potential energy. The molecules slow down. As they do, they form hexagonal patterns and move a little further apart.
But what caused the molecules to slow down ? The water itself didn't cause the molecules to slow down. The environment itself got colder.
The environment changed. The loss of energy in the environment was the cause. That loss of energy affected the water, causing the molecules to slow down.

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