Do you believe in god or math?

[Modular Moog V]

Gotta say, you've been given some pretty clear explanations as to why we don't have to believe in numbers, why math is not a subjective discipline. Wondering what it is that causes you to hold onto this so tightly. What depends upon this assertion of yours?

(we're talking numbers, so holding up 1 finger would of course mean 1, but here again is a great example of why numbers aren't subjective. You could indeed be flicking me off, had you just held up a card with the number 1 on it, there would be no confusion)

The problem of Induction. One rails at circular reasoning in some areas (theism), but ignores it in others, science, and math.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Problem_of_Induction#Hume

You are making a mistake if you think a card with 1 on it always means 1. In a cypher language it could refer to anything, only known by a person with the cypher key. In this case, 1 does not mean 1. If it can fail to hold its meaning, or have other meanings, (thankfully true for spies), it shows the subjective nature of the symbol. If numbers are not subjective, you have proposed an objective "object" in the world that has no matter in it, and would exist whether the physical universe exists or not. Can such an object be "real"?